Americans' Beliefs About Human Origins, 1982-2024 Which of the following statements comes closest to your views on the origin and development of human beings -- 1) Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process, 2) Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process, 3) God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so? Line chart showing percentages of Americans overall who, from 1982 to 2024, believe God created human beings in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years, or human beings developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life with God's guidance, or human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life but God had no part in the process. In a May 1-23, 2024, Gallup poll, 37% say God created humans in present form, 34% say humans developed with God's guidance and 24% say humans developed without God's intervention. The % saying developed without God is the highest in the trend, higher than the 22% saying this in 2019 and figures mostly in the low double digits from 1993 to 2006. Since 2014, at least 19% have held this view. The "God guided" view has shown little change over time, fluctuating almost exclusively in the 30% range during the trend, with a high reading of 40% in 1999 and a low of 31% in 2014. The "created in present form" view has also varied within a relatively narrow, 10-point range, from 47% in 1993 and 1999 to the current 37%, the low reading for the trend. % God created humans in present form% Humans developed, God guided% Humans developed without God

As of 2024, 37% of Americans think God created humans in their current form within the last 10,000 years.

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Damn you are dumb.

You are telling us *all* humans are male or female just because our _species_ is gonochoric.

That’s equivalent to saying everyone must have two legs because our species is bipedal.

And yet, some people have both sexes, just like some people are born with only one leg.

And, again, what does the development towards ovaries and testes result in?

How do you determine the dominant sex if neither produce gametes?

You are slow rolling this answer like a toddler dragging their feet to a nap.

And what do those pathways consist of?

You mean that previous post where you ignored reality and tried to change the subject because you realized you lost the argument??

Oh I remember that, it made you look like a complete idiot. 🤷‍♂️

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@alyssa3467.bsky.social - I’m starting to think he actually believes the pathway is a real trail that fetuses have to traverse to get to their sex.

The bipedal nature of humans is an evolved reality.

It just is.

There’s no way around that.

- You, trying to justify that congenital amputeeism doesn’t exist. 🤣

That’s not an answer to the question. You can’t answer it, so you gave an example of something else that also doesn’t answer it. 🤣

You replaced the word sex with pathway. And then you didn’t explain what materially defines the pathways, just like you didn’t with sex.

We know it’s because you can’t.

But again, if you are stating you have to be able to produce eggs and sperm, well then a lot of people are not even male or female. But you know that’s not the requirement. And you now know people have both ovaries and testes. And in rare cases they can produce both sperm and eggs.

Yes, see the links I’ve been adding to my posts take you to websites on something we call “the internet”. And the internet has documents, in this case from scientifically peer-reviewed medical journals. And the link I sent, confirms there are people who produce both.

It’s an analogy designed to help you understand a very basic concept. You think a third category cannot emerge from binary inputs, and yet it clearly can.

Mixing pathways is a third category. Just like a person with heterochromia goes in a unique eye-color group from the homochromia ones.

What sex would you say this person is?

www.fertstert.org/article/S001...

Yes, we get a little device, kinda like a dimmer switch for lights but it determines sex. 🤦‍♂️

When not geno/phenotypically concordant they are typically assigned intersex.

If the person identifies as a given sex, we accept that - even when it’s opposite of their physiology.

They are, I’ve provided multiple forms of evidence to support them.

Your reply has been “nuh uh” - something someone resorts to when they know they don’t have a good response and have lost the argument.

Or perhaps peer-reviewed medical journals meet the litmus of credibility you need to acknowledge reality.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC...

Yeah, they do.

www.sciencedirect.com/topics/agric...

Nope, we’re talking about your complete inability to provide a definition of sex that meets the criterion of binary.

But you keep changing the subject.

So, sex is not binary, unless of course you can provide an explanation for how having OT-VSD is not a circumstance of having both pathways.

You are astoundingly ignorant.

Ovulation in a cytogenetically proved phenotypically male fertile hermaphrodite - PubMed An unusual case of true hermaphroditism is reported. The patient was a 32-year-old phenotypically male true hermaphrodite. Histology of his removed ovary suggested that ovulation had, at some time, oc...

You sure have the memory of a hamlet fish. Corpus luteum histologies are reliable indicators of ovulation. And your premise falters when you acknowledge people can have a dysgenic ovary and testis - so they produce neither sperm/ova, but are on both pathways still.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7200380/

If you had two choices of soda, Coke and Diet Coke, and I asked for a mix of half of each, what am I drinking? It’s a different category from the other two, despite being comprised of two choices. The mix is no longer Coke, and no longer Diet Coke. There’s no third soda, but it’s not a Coke either.

You’ve already been told the answer to this.

Binary: male or female.

Ternary: male or female or hermaphrodite.

Quaternary: unknown, male, female, hermaphrodite.

So developing an ovary and a testis breaks your binary definition. As would just developing ovotestes.

This is you: sex is binary, it’s based on the pathway, the pathway is defined by the sex, and the pathway defines the sex.

Your circular reasoning comes across as desperate and uneducated.

So how does someone end up with an ovary and a testis? Are those not the endpoints of two different pathways?

What does the pathway consist of?

I’ll agree sex is binary if you can provide a warrant that meets scientific consensus, until then it’s just a meritless claim.

So you can’t have both, but if you did (as I clearly demonstrated) it’s based on which pathway is dominant.

Ok, as I asked before, what determines the dominant pathway. Is it based on organ count? Weight of tissues? A hierarchy of traits?

Stop changing the subject and answer the questions.

You’ve made two claims, both are false, but we’re trying to get you to answer the first issue before moving on to the second.

What “defines” the pathway? What sex is someone who develops on both pathways? What distinguishes them when these traits overlap?

Yes, you consistently change the subjects of:

What “defines” sex in a way that makes it binary?

And when you consistently fail to answer that you ask why that matters for trans people, which really isn’t pertinent to the above.

What defines sex?

If the pathway, what defines the pathway?

People have both pathways, so that cannot be binary.

Face it, you are seeing the other side of the Dunning Kruger peak, and instead of answering the questions you are just regurgitating the previous assertions.

I know you realize it. 🧐

Having both sexes is an exception to the binary.

There is no number that is even and odd, no fact that is true and false, no number that is 1 and 0.

Sex is binary, like a binary star, but sex in humans is bimodal, just like star count distribution is multimodal, with 1, 2, 3, and 4 star orbits.

Well, without being able to define male / female, you can’t definitively say what anyone’s sex is.

If a rare trait can occur, the rare instance of someone being trans is also possible.