Now Keir Starmer has answered his question.
Let’s turn to Nigel Farage
1. Who paid for your house?
2. Why did you say the same as Nathan Gill who is in prison for taking bribes?
3. Have you paid for that Street’s energy Bills?
4. Has Dickie Tice paid his tax bill yet?
The Mandelson trivia was a massive exercise, in UK media mud-slinging. It was a topic that they latched onto and tried to blow up into a major scandal, (It wasn't) and blame the Prime Minister, with the ulterior motive of forcing him out of office. The media behaviour was a national embarrassment.
Yep. 24 hour Tv news schedules to fill and social media clickbait to publish!
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I’m sick of this overblown outrage over mandelson it’s getting very boring now. Boris Johnson failed vetting and Farage would definitely fail. There’s more important issues for Britain than this cheap political point scoring by the tories and reform
Glass houses
😂😂there will be a number 4 somewhere where those shysters are concerned
What’s number 4?
Starmer has been under fire so now back to Nigel Farage:
1. Who paid for his Clacton house?
2. Has Tice paid his tax bill?
3. Why does his company Thorn In Side Ltd own properties that are not declared?
5. What does he gain from supporting the likes of Nathan Gill?
#NigelFarage
No way. I have said It was a poor appointment but it really just doesn’t matter in the bigger scheme of things. That is not both-siding. It is just having a proper sense of perspective. Maybe you should consider that. Of course, if you don’t like my opinion nobody is asking you to comment on it.
The whole thing is a nothing burger.
Did Starmer personally gain from Mandelson’s appointment?
No.
Did he break the law?
No.
Breech the Ministerial code?
No.
Sack Mandelson soon as?
Yes.
Apologise?
Yes.
This whole thing is a political journalistic w⚓️ fest.
Who cares?
Let him run the country.
fair point. But it cuts both ways. Was it really that difficult for Robbins - a very experienced senior official - to have sent an email to Lammy or Starmer saying simply and unequivocally that Mandelson had failed his security vetting? That seems a straightforward option for him to have taken.
Key government business in Parliament today:
Ministerial statement: Middle East economic update by the Chancellor - due around 12:30pm.
English Devolution and Community Empowerment Bill: Consideration of Lords Amendments. 170 amendments from the Lords will hopefully be whittled down to just a few.
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'Richard Tice’s girlfriend is very annoyed that the free press she champions, despite having emigrated to a dictatorship without one, is investigating her boyfriend for stuff she says people who aren’t her boyfriend, like Angela Rayner, should resign over.'
You couldn’t make it up. 🤦🏻♂️
It was Margaret Thatcher who was an enabling good friend of Jimmy Savile wasn’t it?
I am not saying the Mandelson appointment was okay. It clearly was not. I am also saying that Starmer made a mistake appointing him. I am also saying that I do not think it is any way near enough a resigning matter
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Without any real world consequences - I mean who cares? Neither of Mandelson’s appointment and his subsequent dismissal have made a jot of difference to the daily lives of any ordinary person. Much ado about nowt!
I'm used to Labour getting a raw deal from the media. I expect it.
But what's happening to Starmer is different level. It's more intense, more sustained and more deliberate. Any excuse large or small. Wave after wave.
If they can't pin him with something they want him to quit out of exhaustion.
I just don’t get why Olly Robbins - a very experienced and very senior civil servant did not just send a written memo to either David Lammy or Keir Starmer saying quite plainly that “Mandelson has failed his security vetting.” Seems very straightforward really.
The media witch hunt of Starmer continues apace. They got used to filling up pages and TV schedules with repeated Tory PM scandals, sagas and resignations and are now looking for that to continue.
Spot on. Robbins balls’d up the Brexit negotiations and balls’d up the Mandelson vetting. Paid a fortune to handle tough jobs and pressure and mucked it up both times.
Robbins was a very senior, highly paid civil servant. He is there explicitly to take difficult decisions and do difficult things. Seems to me ha balls’d up on Brexit negotiations and balls’d up again on Mandelson briefing.
Apart from helping the MSM fill up their schedules I don’t really see why we have such a big fuss over the Mandelson appointment. The constant need for the press and TV to have a turnover of supposedly “scandalous” Prime Ministers is tiresome. Serves only their best interests.
I think you are correct that Starmer should say he got the Mandelson appointment wrong. In fairness he has already done that. I just don’t think the appointment of people to diplomatic or ministerial posts is a resignation issue. Keeping them on when you know they are a wrong ‘un - yep maybe.
And nor should he! Correct decision!
What’s your favorite Bible verse? (Wrong answers only)
“And she’s buying a Stairway to Heaven”
Yep - agree. Especially an Ambassador to the US where there is currently nothing they can possibly do to make any difference to the idiot they have as President.
Yep I agree with your points here. We each have our view about Starmer’s role in this and we each have our view on the importance and consequences of the UK Ambassador to US role while the idiot Trump is in power.
Again very believable if you read the Benn Diaries or the Cossman diaries.
Having worked in the Civil Service for over 30 years I would say it is entirely believable for Senior Civil Servants to conceal critical information from ministers. Not just believable and not common but not that rare either. And if Starmer wasn’t told that smacks of a conspiracy to bring him down
Ollie Robbins? Or are you calling for Starmer to resign? Somehow relating the appointment of Mandelson to his decision on things like the American war on Iran? Should everyone resign if they make a mistake no matter how inconsequential?