Not sure what you're saying there. However we're not too keen on 'blood and soil' nationalism in Wales. Keep that in Scotland.

That article literally says the Welsh electorate voted Leave.

The number of people on here, women in particular, simping for one of the world's most brutal regimes.

A few weeks ago Iran murdered up to 30,000 protesters.

But some of you don't care about that.

No they haven't.

Yet other Western governments don't seem to share the same view. Why is that?

Travel Advice and Advisories Travel Advice and Advisories from the Government of Canada.

They have advisories for every country on earth. Here are a list of Canada's, for example.

Interestingly, Canada cautions against travel to France and Italy, but not the United States.

travel.gc.ca/travelling/a...

If it was unsafe, Canadian and EU governments would advise their citizens not to travel to the US.

None have.

"All EU Member States, except Denmark, are required to adopt the euro and join the euro area."

Key word being 'required'. Stay Out has a simple message, Rejoin has a load of waffle about the exact meaning of that word, by which point people have lost interest.

Something Scottish nationalists always forget when blaming Brexit on the English electorate

The Rejoin campaign has to win a referendum on the UK committing to give up the Pound. The simple message from 'Stay Out' will be that the Pound will be replaced by the Euro. That is likely to be a fact.

Why can't 'Rejoin' just sell Euro adoption rather than waffle on about timetables?

Ireland doesn't want to be outside Schengen. It's only forced to because of the UK being out (otherwise there would be a hard border with NI)

53% in favour of Rejoin might be a majority. However that's before arguments over the commitment to adopt the Euro and Schengen, with loss of all rebates, come into play.

How will that majority look, after a campaign focused on "punishment terms" by the opposition?

53% in favour of Rejoin might be a majority. However that's before arguments over the commitment to adopt the Euro and Schengen, with loss of all rebates, come into play.

How will that majority look, after a campaign focused on "punishment terms" by the opposition?

No. People leaving Ireland. The source linked to is the Irish government's Central Statistics Office.

Makes you wonder then why only 21.5% of Irish leavers in 2024 choose the EU vs rest of the world. Those figs will include retirees, who presumably favour Spain etc. That suggests opportunities in the EU are not actually there for young Irish, the same would apply to young Brits.

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And then they come straight back. How is that prevented? There are no border controls any more.

Sure, but that doesn't escape the problem of local wages being undercut by people from countries with a much cheaper standard of living. Also in practice, what can EU countries do about people who fail to get a job in that time? They can't deport them, they have a right of abode across the EU.

What sector are your friends in? Not saying English-speaking offices don't exist (our Belgian office is like this), but this is an exception to the general rule. Also such workplaces are open to workers from across the EU, so young Brits with 1 language have to compete against those with 2 or 3.

Such as through postponing when they be allowed to work? Maybe, but the public may have to be promised a future government would do that, which of course a Rejoin campaign cannot say.

I work for a multinational engineering company, and that isn't my experience. My colleagues in Germany, Italy and Sweden all speak and use the local language at work. In comms with other offices, they use English.

And when the EU next enlarges; taking in such economic powerhouses as Albania, Moldova, Macedonia and Ukraine? This isn't the Turkey argument floated in 2016, those countries are actually in line to join.

Fleeing to places where, in the main, they don't speak the language. Which means the local labour market is rigged against them. So probably not that big an impact overall.

Thing is if it's set up to fail for regional airports like Lanzarote, you have to question why the EU didn't allocate resources to upgrade the infrastructure in time. They've only had 10 years.

Maybe, though the second image indicates the Proposal was limited to the Schengen area. This makes sense, since it turns out the EES system is confined to the Schengen area.

The UK would presumably have had nothing to do with the formulation of Schengen rules while an EU member, it not having signed that Treaty.

Sure. Perhaps you would like to tell Peter Magyar this.

As the EU's second largest budget contributor, it would mean more money for Hungary. Of course he's going to say that.

Lanzarote seems particularly bad. I saw a post on Instagram with an Irish lady complaining of hellish queues on arrival for everyone (inc EU citizens)

All these counterfactuals seem predicated on the idea the UK would have done rather well compared to its neighbours on the continent such as France and Germany, had it not left.

Perhaps that's true, I'm not an economist, but we've left and this pontificating is now for alternate history nerds.

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