Even better! How much information can we remove and still expect them to recreate the structure of the story? #ElemMathChat

A8: Letting kids pick the numbers they want to work with, after discussing the structure of the story, gives them all a chance to pick their level of "challenge" - after all, if you know the structure, you're now just focused on calculation. And then you can try some "harder" numbers! #ElemMathChat

A6: Reduces calculation compulsion! How to help students focus on story/problem structure. How to launch a math-y conversation with the students' ideas, not what the teacher says is important. #ElemMathChat

First thing I saw (or thought I saw) was foccacia, which I made recently in an experiment. #ElemMathChat

A5: N: baked goods, lots of different things, shaker of powder (W: confectioner's sugar?), seems like sweet & savory. W: what's the confectioner's sugar for? baking potluck? more sweet or more savory? Is near part of table savory and far part sweet? #ElemMathChat

A4: It's really key to help students focus on the structure of the story, and NOT resort to calculation compulsion. Removing the numbers is one way. Another is to leave them, but focus conversation/#NoticeWonder on "tell me something about the story." #ElemMathChat

A4: We could remove the numbers. "Grae 3 raised some money. Grade 4 raised less money. Together they raised some money. #NoticeWonder about the story." #ElemMathChat

Oh, I can totally do that - having trained myself not to resort of algebra all the time years ago at #TheMathForum - but I focused more on structure in this answer. Interesting! #ElemMathChat

A3: Oh, gosh....big one would be paying attention to the story and not just doing rando things with the numbers. Overcoming "calculation compulsion", as it were. #ElemMathChat

And it's so interesting that you're focused on how you imagine kids could do the operations, and I just skipped right over that! #ElemMathChat

A2: My instinct is to subtract 68 from 437, then add the result to 437, so I'd know what the 4th graders raised. But you could also just add 437 to itself, then subtract 68 from the total, since nobody actually asked how much the 4th graders raised. #ElemMathChat

A1: So many ways to answer this. One is that people (students, adults, everyone) should feel like they can engage in things mathematically and not rely on other people to "explain" things to them and, consequently, have power over them. #ElemMathChat

Hi! I'm Annie, joining from suburban Philly. And yes, I'll be helping @mnmmath.bsky.social out this summer on her project - it's going to be wicked fun! #ElemMathChat

A7: A normal staircase or a steep one? #ElemMathChat

That's the answer to how to ask my question about multiple layers. Thanks, Gregory! #ElemMathChat

A7: Does your pattern have reflection symmetry across a vertical plane? #ElemMathChat

A7: Trying to think about how best to ask whether it has multiple layers horizontally - because nothing is 2D here, but some are just one "layer" (like first and last in third row). #ElemMathChat

I think of it more as fascination about visual perception. It sure looks green. I'm 100% sure it isn't, if I zoomed in, but I can't argue with how it looks. And isn't that cool? #ElemMathChat

I love giving the answer. To convince kids you don't care about the answer, you have to actually not care about the answer. An elem T friend of mine learned that quickly with her kids - it's not what you "say" you care about, it's what you actually care about - they can tell! #ElemMathChat

No, just chunky square pixels, at least in my youth (the late 70s and early 80s). Maybe it is just the nightmare of the ships constantly advancing down the screen.... #ElemMathChat

And in #3, "might". Not "does", but "might". So inviting! #ElemMathChat

Oh, man, the PLURAL thing is so important! It opens up the door - how many ways can we think of? what are some possible answers? instead of "what's THE answer?" I might need a shirt (though it might be too subtle). #ElemMathChat

A6: how many hexagons? Are there an equal number of white and blue hexagons? Why did my brain say "Space Invaders!" Is there a pattern that generates this? #ElemMathChat

A5: And sorry, should have read directions and gone right to asking questions! How many layers? Is it iterative to a certain depth? Are they blue triangles or yellow triangles as the main form? Are the involved ratios something interesting? #ElemMathChat

A5: Noticing blue and yellow triangles - my brain sees blue triangles and yellow negative space. N: it looks green in the center. W: if it was built with yellow triangles or blue ones. N: it almost reminds me of a Poincare disk but that it's not quite that. W: how many layers. #ElemMathChat

A4: I know Ts who use the strategy of "Okay, you all have to ask me three questions." So that becomes a norm. #ElemMathChat

A2: Oh, boy, that word "curious" is doing so much work! That's why the #NoticeWonder routine includes "wonder" - that can encompass things you are curious about, not just things you don't know. That can really open it up for kids (and adults). #ElemMathChat

Oh, and I am excited about the women's basketball final four in April. #ElemMathChat

Hey #ElemMathChat! Annie joining from suburban Philadelphia. I am a math education consultant and author. And I really like Tile Farm!

Oh, pressure's on! Pretty sure I can work #NoticeWonder in there somewhere...Also excited to visit Duluth for the first time.