on the same topic, but looking at the data longitudinally there is also this amazing paper: direct.mit.edu/qss/article/...
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thanks for the suggestion! I cannot say for sure because in our data we cannot really split the non-OA category between Hybrid and Subscribe to compare them as we don't have enough journals classified as subscribe, but I wrote the same post on linkedin and many people confirmed your intuition!
And don't hesitate to also play with the data from our database wheretopublish.github.io APCs are mostly collected from the openAPC database (www.openapc.net) and all our data can be freely downloaded from our website as a .csv file :) #whereToPublish #APC #scientificPublicationSystem
I don't have an easy explanation for that, but one possibility is that journals with editors willing to go fully for OA may also be the ones where editors are more motivated to maintain APCs low. Happy to hear more thoughts on that
To my own surprise, I must confess that what I observed was the opposite: OA journals have, on average, cheaper APCs than non-OA journals (i.e. hybrid + subscription journals).
Based on much evidence that many publishers use the pressure to publish open access (OA) as a means to increase the article processing charges (APCs) I wanted to verify the assumption that for-profit OA journals are more expensive than for-profit non-OA journals in our where to publish database
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You can also see very quickly the outliers on our where-to-publish life-sciences database where APCs are mostly based on the openAPC database www.openapc.net for-profit journals and especially Elsevier and Springer Nature journals are clearly at the top
I always had the vague feeling that Scientific Reports and Nature Communications are mainly APC business models.
A paper estimated the total APC for gold/hybrid Open Access per journal 2015–2018: doi.org/10.1162/qss_...
Surprise, surprise - there are 2 outliers at the top😐
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Also note that stats were done with non-parametric tests, and the only groups that are not different are the [for-profit associated with a scientific society] vs [university press], otherwise all the 2-by-2 posthoc tests are significant (p<=0.005; the 4 groups being: FP/FP with a Society/UP/NP)
and indeed the opposite holds true in the for-profit group:
mean = 2635€
median = 2543€
while in the non-profit + UP as you observed:
mean = 1996€
median = 2228€
thanks for the fbk, yeah sounds likely, you can already see it on the where to publish website if you filter the data by publisher type. There are more diamond OA (0€ APC) in the non-profit group while the extreme high outliers are more concentrated in the for-profit group
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To conclude: check our Where To Publish database and don't hesitate to also play with the data which can easily be downloaded from the website!
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Side note: the APC values are mostly indicative and are mostly based on the openAPC database (www.openapc.net)
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Notably, non-profit journals are the definitive winners and are even cheaper than university press journals with an average 1792 +/- 90€ of APCs!
This is clearly a call for change but sadly, for-profit journals clearly dominate the market with 71% of the journals in the database being for-profit..
Also unsurprisingly, the difference is statistically significant (p<0.001) and the average price is even higher when looking at for-profit journals that are NOT associated with one way or another to a scientific society:
2829 +/- 53€
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Based on our WhereToPublish database, we were curious to see if the APCs depend on the publisher type and with relatively no surprise at all, the journals that are for-profit are way above:
For-profit journals = 2635 +/- 37€ (mean +/- sem)
Non-profit & University Press journals = 1996 +/- 63€
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and for those in ecology & evolution, there is also the DAFNEE database which hilights specifically ethical journals in that field dafnee.isem-evolution.fr and that we also exploited to build where to publish. Thanks @nicolasgaltier.bsky.social for the exchanges!
Because they are a for-profit journal that wants to make money and they know that topic is hot within and beyond scientists... just a wild guess 😁
For more literature on the subject, you can also look at all the great work done by @hansonmark.bsky.social, @paolocrosetto.bsky.social and colleagues bsky.app/profile/hans...
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