shoot that over to Darrel Cowan some time. He's mostly retired but he'd get a rise out of it :)

but reflecting on this at the moment, it sounds like NSF is doing that with their entire budget... is there something in their statuary language that prevents them from running Division/Program budgets through OMB individually as others do? That may be the problem they're confronting....

I can't believe it happened again <smh>

btw. if that sounds like hyperbole, it isn't really... programs in other agencies are getting stalled out in OMB and then fighting their way through general administrative static with outside pressure.

I can't speak to the overarching timelines, but when I was there as a rotator in 2017-2020 it was use-it-or-lose-it for the programs' annual timelines.

if I was a DD there and could afford to lose my job I’d push to submit award recs all the way to OMB and fight it out there rather than wait for an approved budget appropriation.

Honestly it was Laurence Coogan who probably deserves the credit for realizing that the discharge zone HAS to be the recharge zone… elements of the idea were around back to Clive Lister but got forgotten in that 80s-90s body of literature.

it's so funny how these kind of questions raise so many passions... I got sucked into a disproportionate on-line reaction about "is the mantle metamorphic" (don't, just don't)....

Using submersible geology we had along-axis flow in our submersible geology results in mid-00's, and with drilling we saw sub-axial brine signatures in zircons from 1256D.

oh man, it looks reasonably easy to travel Namibia (minus the slightly spendy airfare).... this is entering the bucket list at #1! Probably should reach out to the geological survey about collaborations :)

Rudi and Cees worked on that? Whoah...

The Late Palaeozoic Ice Age unconformity in southern Namibia viewed as a patchwork mosaic Namibia has an outstanding record of the Late Palaeozoic Ice Age, including thick diamictites with dramaic facies changes. The relationship between these diamictites and underlying strata has not bee...

man, this is making me want to go all in on this, and head to Namibia! onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10....

right. It's tough to get anywhere only with cooling ages. Never been to Namibia, but the Uinta Grp is possibly comparable, but a little intimidating 'cause it's just a pile of sandstone from what I can tell :)

but my overall sense is that it's really tough to come up with a critical test of a hypothesis like this using only cooling ages, which was the heart of the comment/reply between Flowers and Keller. I'd like to see more 'mechanisms' discussed though, in terms of glacial mid-continent erosion.

Made a little progress (is reading up on science "procrastination"?). Current sense: the Keller stuff (pretty much the entire one side of this "vigorously debated controversy") seems thoughtful, though perhaps over-pitched. Flowers's corrective similarly robust. This latest a straw-person argument.

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I'll do some more reading, but it seems like this 'wave' of Snowball Earth 'controversy' is largely based on Keller et al. (2018), but others, including Hoffman, have always taken a more nuanced view, even questioning if the hydrology of SBE would enhance erosion at all. Seems a little ginnned up...

It’s one of these geology things that keeps coming up - eg the BIF thread floating around - but it’s only “great” cause we see it in a few places but, like, it probably wasnt *everywhere* at the same time right? Which makes this paper, at best, …. pithy.

Wow! Thats an old channel!

Pliocene?

interestingly the expression is most widely credited to Sheikh Ahmed Zaki Yamani....

typed with phone and no glasses....

Yeah … I’ve done a few collaborations either physicists and though there’s a lot of variability on writing talents they hew away from integrating writing and priblem-thinking, if that makes sense.

Wait'll you hear about "beef" LOL

One of my "geo-heroes": I'll have to read this book by a different Nick...

Well the current WH budgets are that hacking of federal research budgets, I just can’t figure out why they’re the de facto budget all of a sudden. There’s also longer term trends that aren’t hacking but are difficult to fully understand.

Save Camp Hamp!

There are geologists in DOE too though it is engineering heavy. again there’s something going on I can’t quite put my finger on but the cuts are, in general, an expression of the lack of commitment to the public agency function (sensu lato)

Not sure how long this has been going on for, but definitely since ~2019, domestic resources have been a growing part of DOE's mission. Makes sense, but also rubs up against USGS's resource and energy assessment mission. Shouldn't be a competition, but ....

Something very weird is going on where the reversal back to congressional budgets (across the board, NSF etc...) are now in danger under the current partial closures and strange CR agreements... For USGS it seems to be compounded by mission-shifts into the DOE. Strange days indeed....