Oh?
How so?
Be specific.
Because I didn't sit it out just because Harris wasn't everything I wanted. I voted because Harris was, by far, the best thing I had, and it wasn't even close.

Garland built a case methodically because that is how you win.
If he rushes it it's an acquittal and that's arguably worse.

Tom Jones was, and still is, such an incredible voice.
As big as he was, imagine if his original music hadn't been so objectively bad. Whenever he does a cover it's amazing.

If you are saying NOT voting for Harris was in any way, shape, or form justified, you are actually saying Trump was the better option.
No amount of perceived perfection would have changed that. Dems took any excuse they could to sit it out. You can't beat that.

Oh come on, why would a large group of people all packed into a small area for extended periods of time, who travel and are exposed to many different other people, need a flu vaccine? It seems woke to me.

Our problem is not Trump
Our problem is the Heritage Foundation.
Trump is just the vehicle they're using to get to autocracy, then they'll put him out to pasture.

Of course; beef is a bad thing for a vegan.
The better question is, if two Carnivores get in a fight is it still a beef, even though beef is like their favorite thing ever?

We'll have to agree to disagree then, because the only reasons Dems didn't sell it is because Dem voters weren't in the mood to buy it. They looked for, and found, excuses not to vote for Harris.
And those same people are now whining that Dems aren't doing anything/

Oh? In what way was Trump the better option.
Be specific.

Problems he promised to replace with things that were 100 times worse. The only promise he's kept.
Harris never said things were as good as they could get, but look at every single marker and they were definitely trending better, much better than could have been expected.

I ask that of the people who purity tested Harris and found her imperfect and didn't vote for her.
Saying Harris wasn't perfect so don't vote for her, despite her being better in LITERALLY every single way than Trump, doesn't make it Harris' fault for being imperfect.

Don't try to apply logic to mental health issues.
This is why guns are such a problem: Every country has people with mental illness. Mental Illness is inevitable in every population.
But not every country insists on arming them.

Only three times?
There were already bribe-level bids then.

It has nothing to do with Democracy.
Liberty and Freedom? Sure, but it's adorable that you think there wouldn't still be a secret police disappearing people if we didn't already have ICE. ICE was just a convenient vehicle.

It was like that in the 70s and 80s too.

I'll believe it when we have free and fair elections in November.
That's a LOT of time for MAGA to pull some serious shenanigans to get the SAVE act through.

OK, explain how 4 more years of Biden policy would have been worse than anything Trump promised.
Note: I'm not even relying on hindsight.
Be specific.
I'll wait. Because that dog just doesn't hunt.
Harris wasn't perfect so we elected Trump instead? Nope, no hunt there.

WTF does that matter? He still would have made a secret police, it just would have had a different name. And honestly none of those are what he's using to subvert Democracy; he's using Congress and the SAVE act.

I disagree. Biden got elected by the skin of his teeth, and only because Trump botched COVID so badly.

He could have lost every single case and still gotten elected.
Hell, the way MAGA controlled the narrative he'd have probably won bigger, because they convinced everyone it was lawfare.

Even if I agreed with you (I don't) it wouldn't matter.
We. Voted. Him. Back. Into. Office. Knowing. He. Would. Lose. Every. Case.
He has 34 felony convictions and has been found liable for Rape. Nobody who voted for him believed it was true. They thought he was railroaded.

Fire Noem and they replace her with someone worse.
Fire Gabi and they replace her with someone worse.
Fire Patel and they replace him with someone worse.
Fire Hegseth and they....actually he may be the worst.

From what I read from the lawyers I follow, that isn't necessarily true.
But even if it is, it wouldn't have mattered. We elected this dirtbag again, knowing he had four pending felony cases that he would have almost certainly lost.
It's on the voters, not the legal system.

Bullshit.
The founding fathers built those institutions.
They just never envisioned voters dumb enough to elect a Trump not only twice but to give him both Congressional houses in a time where he's promising to end meaningful elections.
It's on us as voters, 100%.

He didn't open the cases until he knew he had enough evidence to open them with a high confidence of conviction, which includes working up the "food chain".
You assume because Biden wasn't blathering about it on Fox News like Trump does that it wasn't happening.

Not enough of them.
And that's the voters' fault.

So your plan is to give MAGA POTUS and both chambers of Congress in a time when they literally have a written document that tells how they're going to completely subvert democracy and retain power for decades?
Yeah, that'll show those Dems.

He was charged. He was facing trial.
Then you idiots derailed the entire thing by failing to elect Harris.
Never count on the legal system to solve a political problem, for this exact reason. People voting for Trump (or not voting for Harris) got him out of those charges, not the other way around.

Merrick Garland didn't start too late. Merrick Garland has a 100% conviction rate because he doesn't rush to build cases.
These cases take years to build. The fact that they were as far along as they were is kind of a miracle.

It should scare everyone.
And I'm neither old school nor a Democrat and it terrifies me.