I think I’m having one after reading this thread.

Is that a legit poll? If so, holy forking shirtballs!

But I was told it wasn’t misogyny by the OP and this is where I’m confused. Oh well.

Now we’re getting into news values like prominence. Let’s imagine she didn’t donate money. Let’s imagine she was arrested for running an illegal drug operation. It will most likely start the same way because her name isn’t prominent. Yet.

I’ve just spent the better part of the day trying to explain why news organizations do this. 😩 It’s all there in my replies.

But we know who she is, which is kind of the point I was trying to make and apparently not doing it very well.

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This is probably as close as we’re going to get for awhile.

www.yahoo.com/entertainmen...

Maybe someday…(stares wistfully into the void)

Wow 😮

But then people will likely not click to read the story. Some people won’t click regardless but if you are an NPR aficionado you are likely going to click through.

100! Kinehora.

🤣🤣🤣
Nothing of course but her name is the first two words in the actual story so it would look repetitive. One person writes the story and someone else (an editor, usually) writes the headline.

We live in a cynical world where sadly many people would be like “never heard of that bitch” and not bother to check.

She probably will be better known now. A few years ago no one knew who Mackenzie Scott was.

It’s simply providing context to people who may actually want to read beyond the headline because even if you don’t know Steve Ballmer, you’ve likely heard of the Clippers. Some of us from LA wish we hadn’t, but that’s another story for another day.

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The motivation is simply that her name is not one that is immediately recognized by most people. Including me. Buuut…Steve Ballmer is much better known because he’s one of the founders of Microsoft and goes absolutely bonkers cheering during Clippers games. ⬇️

How and when to use those can have a lot of variables, but the most common reason to use delayed-ID (where the person is not immediately named) is when the name is not immediately recognizable to the audience.

delayed-ID and immediate-ID headlines and leads and when to use each.

Of course I do. I even go back to the time where women didn’t have their own identities, i.e. Mrs. John Smith. And I talk about how that kind of institutional misogyny (and racism too) eventually became outdated as newsrooms became more diverse and more women entered media. I also talk about the…

I have some.
I think we could all use one. 🤪

Both, actually.

I’m sorry Stabby. I didn’t mean to drag you into this conversation. I know these are your friends. I’m sure they are all good peeps.

Me and my white woman tears do see this. It’s quite something because I’m trying to figure out when exactly I became a white woman. Does anyone know?

My white woman tears! 😭

See, unlike you, I respect Stabby.

I said I was going to stop arguing with you. Stabby and I are mutuals.

Wait, I’m a white woman?

Fair enough.

I realize that you can see my responses. I’ve seen how you interact with others on here that I’m friends with and it’s not exactly adult like. That’s why I don’t follow you. I’m supposed to be nice to someone who is called “Mean Maria” and says nasty things to my friends?

And people are not wrong about that at all! I work in the most misogynistic workplace (higher ed) and see/experience it every day. If he wasn’t referring to misogyny in the headline, what was it?