You seem to be having fun making up strawman arguments. We'll leave you to argue with yourself.

Yes. We don't think the Parliament Act gambit has a hope. The Bill only made progress because the PM made it a loyalty project, and that's not something he can repeat. Most MPs quite rightly think that there are bigger issues facing the UK than a lobbyist-led bid to legalise suicide on the NHS.

That isn't what we said.

Assisted suicides in The Netherlands are scrutinised after the fact by an administrative committee, but the process of death and the efficacy of the death drugs is not considered by the committee. There is no routine judicial enquiry into deaths and no autopsy.

Few assisted suicide regimes now have any quality control or outcome analysis in place. The lobbyists were careful to put UK assisted suicide deaths beyond the coroners jurisdiction. But those few regimes which did initially monitor outcomes reported significant issues - until they stopped looking.

And yet cases of conscious paralysis still occur in euthanasia... if assisted suicide was subject to a coroners enquiry and autopsy, it's likely many more cases of failed medication would be found. At the least, we need an expert enquiry before providing death on the NHS.

From clinical professionals including anesthesists and palliative care specialists. We aren't in the habit of making stuff up.

We have a low tolerance for being ironically patronised, Martin. This isn't Twitter. Please keep it civil.

So a majority of members of the BMA in 2021 did not support the idea that *the BMA* should support medically-assisted suicide.

People are given medications to paralyse the lungs and cause slow suffocation while unconscious, plus an anti-emetic. But it is medically common for the medication given to cause unconsciousness to cause only a conscious paralysis, where the person is fully aware but unable to move or speak.

Indeed. That statement speaks for itself.

"On the issue of prescribing drugs for self-administration by eligible patients, 40% of those who responded believe the BMA’s position should be one of support; 21% believe it should be neutral; 33% believe it should be opposed; and 6% were undecided". You've misrepresented this 2021 poll.

Quote your sources, please.

Martin, we only ever referred to the views of disabled-led organisations. You've created a strawman argument to knock down. You'll forgive us if we leave you to argue with yourself.

We'd place a small wager that the scores of disabled-led organisations in the UK are in touch with rather more disabled people than you, Martin.

The opinion of the British public depends on what they're asked. When the reality of medically-assisted suicide is described, people's attitude changes. Not least when the ineffectiveness of euthanasia drugs is mentioned. The situation is not as you describe it.

We can't agree that taking your own life is simply the exercise of personal agency. We stand with the whole of society and the medical profession who seek to prevent suicide.

Every single disabled-led organisation opposes assisted suicide. That's a statistic worth remembering.

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The case for legalising medically-assisted suicide is that palliative care is inadequate. We truly hope the NHS will be funded to provide adequate palliative care rather than to paid to despairingly kill their patients.

It can't be bad news for a Bill which doesn't meet basic human rights requirements to be stopped.

BuDS and other disabled-led organisations have long said that disabled people's human rights are more important than other people’s preferred means of dying, and this legal decision underlines how right we are. (3/3)

The Lord Chancellor must certify a Manx Bill as compliant with the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR). The assisted suicide bill has been assessed as *not* complying and so cannot become law. This decision has significant implications for any future suicide Bill (2/3)

A group of disabled people, many of them wheelchair-users, protesting against the Assisted Dying Bill outside the Houses of Parliament. They hold red placards opposing the Bill.

Good news: the Lord Chancellor has prevented the Assisted Suicide Bill passed by the Isle of Man government from becoming law because it does not protect basic human rights. This means that none of the Bills promoted by euthanasia lobbyists have succeeded (1/3)

Excellent news 👏

'I was kicked out of nightclub because of my wheelchair' Maddie Haining, 18, says she was told she was a safety risk and escorted out of a Manchester nightspot.

Another day, another disabled person illegally prevented from living a normal independent life. Disability access and inclusion needs to be enforceable as a duty by local authorities, and victims of discrimination need to be able to easily claim damages.

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