I asked a German friend once how she deals with English exceptionalism as I don't understand it and I'm English.
She said she found that being very direct and 'German' can work but with the disadvantage that you may be accused of being rude. π€·ββοΈ
Good morning π
Some facts, UK:
- The euro is great for users
- Adherence to monetary union is part of the initial criteria for membership applicants
- It is a central part of European unity
- The far right will make unity about the euro
- Europe needs commitment for trust
So, don't wait. Make the case today. β¬
Labour types, such as yourself are ignorant, xenaphobic loons who are quite happy to support the policies of Farage while refusing to listen to experts and blame everyone else.
All while trashing citizens of countries you want better relations with - while refusing to listen & trashing businesses.
EU doesnβt want UK back if itβs just for economic reasons-we donβt want another round of exceptionalist, thorn in the flesh UK involvement in EU affairsβ¦weβre doing pretty well without you & YOU need to convince us why your joining would be good for US
I'm an SME that you feckers chose to screw while ignoring the experts and blaming Farage.
You arenβt listening!
Labour supporters have voted for the same policies as Johnson and choose to blame Farage.
While they have done this, the economy & SMEs are being ruined and people haven't learnt anything.
The EU doesn't need closer ties to a UK govt that is not comitted to the rule of law and citizens rights.
I'm glad you think it is hilarious
For SMEs and people who needed FoM it is pathetic.
I've got one friend who lost her job when Starmer didn't support the EEA, another who is leaving the UK now and a fecked over SME - all because Labour types don't like FoM.
Labour types have been making this same argument with regards to the polls and Labour since 2017.
The important issues are the values that are core to the rest of europe and nobody within Labour is showing any indication they wish to follow those same values - the opposite in fact, in words & deeds
Yes, Starmer supported a referendum and sounded like he supported the EUβ¦..
However, in practice, within opposition he didnβt support FoM, which has been the issue with Labour since Blair.
Being unable to make a positive case for EU values would have lost the 2nd referendum, unfortunately. π
Thank you, of course they are different elections arenβt they.
Is it legal to vote in two countries within the UK at the same time?
For example, England and Scotland.
I am just wondering for no particular reason.
The last senior Labour politician to say anything positive about the EU, the single market or FoM (or even slightly understand any of it) was Blair.
Everything Labour politicians say * always * comes with cherry-picking included.
Yet, Greens talk about FoM and working with europe all the time. π€·ββοΈ
The thing is Alex, it is all very well to complain about the press.
However, to complain about the press and do nothing about it, while having a massive majority makes Labour look incompetent.
What was the point in voting this government into office and what is the point in supporters complaining?
Yes, that sounds like the best idea.
The situation reminds me of May, who was supposed to be a safe pair of hands and then turned out not to be the case.
There are over 400 Labour MPs
Parliament is sovereign
The shadow cabinet were given the the economic trade-off facts of no single market & customs by experts before the GE.
Parliement need to do their job
Fix the economy & defend democracy
Decide a manifesto and PM, then vote of no confidence.
The Conservatives, Labour and Reform are all corrupt.
No
All moral authority to represent the UK vanished as soon as Starmer hired Mandelson.
Stop wishing to lick the boots of a fascist.
So, yes, this 'landing on our arses' π½ will happen, due to the attudude of the UK due to issues of:
Lack of trust
Lack of commitment
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The "many countries across the EU do not follow that convention in every sense" are member states.
The UK is not
The UK needs to show it:
1. Can be trusted
2. Wants to work with others
If the UK can't show either and wants opt-outs before an A49 application then....
No chance, due to attitude.
Within this thread, the point where...
"When will people like you try to understand that the whole of Europe - inside & outwith the EU - have issues with handling migration"
...is here
Thus, the point of following the rule of law and wishing to solve problems * TOGETHER *
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When this happens, England is suitable to submit an Article 49.
When will people like you wish to work with the rest of Europe instead of refusing to do so and instead finding issues with current members.
As you have done here with France and Greece
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"Compliance with the refugee convention is a problem elsewhere - many EU countries fail to house all the migrants - eg in France just 64%"
Business can't export because bigots prefer to be bigots and blame the French.
When is this going to end Jack?
Choosing to NOT follow the rule of law while CHOOSING to deport citizens from countries YOU want better relations with, all while blaming the French are ALL SERIOUS problems.
Europe will be concerned with following the rule of law.
In this instance, the refusal to follow the refugee convention is a problem and has been highlighted at CoE level.
The remark regarding their treatment not being as bad as the crossing is a reflected on how the UK treats EU citizens also.
You are missing the advantages for Scotland and Europe
π΄σ §σ ’σ ³σ £σ ΄σ Ώ would be able to treat migrants with respect and welcome all small and large companies in rUK who want frictionless EU access
Europe gets lots of clean energy and FoM again
The scope here for kick starting the Scottish economy is incredible
Scotland would have far more influence in rules that govern Scotland (and also England) as an EU member than as just a UK member.
