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Australian Evangelical Anglicans and Evangelical Organisations Before and After 1970 Today, we live in a profoundly egalitarian culture, where the equality of the sexes is seen as an ideal, but many churches and some Christian organisations stand in opposition, insisting that women sh...

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... This is not what the Bible teaches. If you continue on this course, the Good News – the Gospel - becomes bad news for women. And it suggests that Christianity – if this is what Christians should believe – it is one big put down of women.” – Kevin Giles

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... but many churches and some Christian organisations stand in opposition, insisting that women should not lead or teach when both men and women are present on the basis of an unchanging theological principle based on biblical teaching. Women should accept ‘male headship’ ...

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“Pre-1970 ... there was no in-principle theological or biblical objection to women in leading or teaching in church or in any Christian organisation. It was just culturally exceptional. Today, we live in a profoundly egalitarian culture

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“Come to me, all you who are struggling hard and carrying heavy loads, and I will give you rest. Put on my yoke, and learn from me. I’m gentle and humble. And you will find rest for yourselves. My yoke is easy to bear, and my burden is light.”
- Matthew 11:28-30

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Jesus vs. Emerson Eggerichs' Advice in Love & Respect: A Side-by-Side Comparison Emerson Eggerichs' version of "Christian men" look nothing like Jesus!

We are to seek to form such a deep relationship with Christ that we can face the world’s scorn and say, “I only do what I see my saviour doing.”” – Jonathan Pettinger

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From the Orthodox Barbie archives:

“The solution to a fragile male ego is not to teach wives how to stroke it. The solution to a fragile ego is to make it strong by seeking to form one’s identity in the right place; not as king of the house, but as a disciple of Christ.

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A Guide to Cross-Centered Submission - CBE International The word “submission” elicits a strong and often negative reaction in our culture. For many, it provokes images of oppression, slavery, or abuse. Submitting sounds like giving in, or giving up. But su...

From: www.cbeinternational.org/resource/gui...

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And we submit to each other based on those gifts, as Christ directs. “Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers” (Eph. 4:11). Submission is always centered on Christ and never on gender.” - Kelly Ladd Bishop

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From the Orthodox Barbie archives:

“When we demand power based on gender or any other social identity, we are not living in the example of Christ. Christian egalitarians believe that we are called to different roles based on the gifts we have been given by Christ through the Holy Spirit.

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Ten Logical Fallacies in the Women in Ministry Debate Don't let these talking points distract you

This is from the same article as yesterday's post: bobbygilles.substack.com/p/ten-comple...

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Every major heresy taught in church history began with a man. That not only means men were the primary deceivers, but also the first to be deceived. Satan deceived the men, who then taught the deception.” – Bobby Gilles

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“Take note of those who say things like, “I spent some time at a church with a woman preacher, and the vibes were weird,” or “I went to a church and heard a woman preach, and she was espousing heresies left and right,” as if this is proof of “what always happens” when women preach.

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Ten Logical Fallacies in the Women in Ministry Debate Don't let these talking points distract you

From: bobbygilles.substack.com/p/ten-comple...

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For example, you’ll hear “This is all a distraction from what we should be talking about: evangelism and missions.” Opponents of sexual abuse reform within complementarian denominations and networks have repeatedly used this tactic over the last two decades.” – Bobby Gilles

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“One common tactic is to move the discussion out of the realm of debated Bible passages or stories of women in scripture, like Deborah, Huldah, Anna, Mother Mary, Mary Magdalene, Priscilla, Phoebe, or Junia, into the realm of some “more important” thing the church should be focusing on.

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Beau Stringer (@beaustringer) on Threads Hot take: The fruit of the spirit is love joy peace patience kindness goodness faithfulness gentleness and self control. Not certainty. Not correctness. Not cultural dominance. Not political power. ...

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“The fruit of the spirit is love joy peace patience kindness goodness faithfulness gentleness and self control.
Not certainty. Not correctness. Not cultural dominance. Not political power.
If what you’re building doesn’t produce the first list it doesn’t matter what you call it.” – Beau Stringer

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Man and Woman at Creation: A Critique of Complementarian Interpretations - CBE International The complementarian1 conviction, that women are under male authority and therefore must be excluded from (some) positions of leadership, rests in no small measure on their interpretation of God’s eternal, created order as established in Genesis 1-2. However, when the complementarian exegesis of creation is given close scrutiny, substantial—indeed fatal—problems are revealed at the very […]

for that is precisely the counterpart to the woman’s identity as the-one-who-helps.” - Christiane Carlson-Theis

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From the Orthodox Barbie archives:

“If the complementarians used the same hermeneutic to understand manhood that they use to understand womanhood—that is, if they read Genesis 2 into Genesis 1—then man could only be identified as the-one-who-needs-help,

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From: coffeewithkristin.wordpress.com/2023/03/28/t...

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From the Orthodox Barbie archives:

““Servanthood” is incorporated as submission for women and as leadership for men. These two aspects of Christ’s one example are separated, dishonoring God. Rightly, both are true of all Christian leaders.” - Kristin Lassen

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Paul's Use of Kephalē ("Head") in Ephesians - Marg Mowczko There's a consistent theme in how Paul used the word "head" in Ephesians. He used it 3X in head-body imagery signifying fullness, unity, etc.

Instead, the church is being elevated to embody the fullness of Christ who embodied the fullness of God’s divinity.” – Marg Mowczko

From: margmowczko.com/head-body-in...

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From the Orthodox Barbie archives:

“When Paul uses “body” language for the church, he is not talking about subordinating the church in the way “subordination” is often understood; the church isn’t being lowered, suppressed, or kept “in order” by Christ or by God.

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Gender Mad Libs When our Sentences are Written for us

If women and men alike are branches grafted onto Christ’s vine to produce the fruit of the Spirit, then men should be just as loving, joyful, peaceful, patient, kind, good, faithful, gentle, and self-controlled as we expect women to be.” – Nick O'Brien

From: renewedmind.substack.com/p/gender-mad...

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If Christ is King of kings and Lord of lords, and if women can say, with men, “it’s no longer I who live, but Christ in me,” then Christ’s authoritative lordship is embodied in women, too.

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“In baptism, we leave the broken story that separates men and women and puts hostility between them, and we ask for new eyes to see New Creation possibilities.

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Easter’s New Creation: Woman’s Identity Restored - CBE International The history of Christ’s redemption of sin and conquest over patriarchy is why we find women and men leading side by side in the early church.

The strength of the church has depended on women’s witness and leadership on Easter morning and every day since. Thanks be to God. He is risen! We are restored!” – Mimi Haddad

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serving as teachers, deacons, prophets, evangelists, and apostles (Rom. 16:1–15). Throughout Christian history, women served Christ as preachers, Bible translators, missionaries, and martyrs. Women carried their crosses and declared Christ risen to every corner of the world.

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The history of Christ’s redemption of sin and conquest over patriarchy is why we find women and men leading side by side in the early church. Many women served as Paul’s coworkers, planting and leading house churches,

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