Oh yeah, 7.5K is nothing in terms of voting. The average mid-size city in Michigan gets beyond these type of votes for City Council.

The MDP sets it up as a "register 30-days before the convention and you get to vote", which is both advantageous for enthusiastic outsiders and non-democratic

Convention yesterday seemed over representative of those under 40, which is increasingly the moderate/progressive break for the party.

It's going to require a ton of that block to turn out for Abdul to win.

To summarize, it's a bit overstated to call Savit a progressive win, just because I'm unsure what even the policy win is there. Hard not to see some tint of gender poking through on it, but both good candidates.

Makled winning is an earthquake and might end the endorsment convention entirely.

Goodman Acker has a lot of connections to the state party and the candidate who lost (Jordan Acker) is of course the son of partner Acker. It's well known that Jordan Acker pushed Dana Nessel to arrest the student activists that were camping on the diag. He closed his campaign in some vile stuff too

Don't know what's going on with the AFL and the UAW, but not a great sign if your endorsement can't get their candidates across the finish line when the convention is in Detroit.

Look man, can we at least all come together and admit that Jordan Acker's close out was some of the most racist mud slinging bullshit and that it's good he lost?

Well, by MDP bylaws they have to alternate genders for the executive. What's new and unusual is to have co-chairs even with Dr. Ali.

Maybe it's a perspective thing, but co-chairs never work and indicate broader problems similar to what was going on with Brandon Dillon and Lavora Barnes

I mean, the Progressive caucus is co-chaired by a white guy with a Dr. as the other co-chair, so not exactly beating the allegations

I, uh, also don't think you know who I am. I did Reform MI Dems in 2017 and helped Liano get Nessel elected on the floor

Oh I don't blame Roth here, but increasingly that label has no real connection to any facts. Increasingly progressive means "can appeal to shitty white men who ping pong between ideologies"

Acker has to be very dead in the water with Savit winning

Michigan Dems really going to need the wave year to pull its weight with a Benson/LG/Savit/Gilchrist ticket

I thought the characterization of Savit as the "progressive" candidate to be a silly one. McDonald won an ambitious prosecution in the Oxford shooting. Reformed to focus on trafficking instead of drugs, and a lot more in Oakland County. Convention picked a much weaker candidate IMO.

It's in the Michigan constitution to do it this way, and should be changed to a primary for these two very powerful seats. Really silly it's determined by who shows up to a convention center by signing up thirty days before

Kalshi has no idea what's going on

Any tallies on that? If that's the case McDonald has to be the AG pick (who I think is the better candidate but not the one I'd expect with the crowd)

Michigan reporters are retweeting Noah Arbit who is introducing a bill to put AG and SOS on the primary ballot. Hertel admin is going great!

Momentarily means Wednesday, apparently

Never a good sign when they can't even give an update with how many have been counted and what the rest will look like

I'm guessing this did not happen yet?

Do we have an Iowa caucus situation with the vendor or something? Waiting for enough people to trickle out for the second ballot?

Sounds like the second round of voting for SOS hasn't started yet? If not, buckle in because you're probably leaving after 10

Always hard when 7K people show up and you have the geo redistributive system that they've had. Not a lot of easy answers, but silly that there wasn't any prep for this being a big convention. I got hundreds of text messages and two dozen mailers and I didn't even go!

That's the reason why a lot of electeds want to move it up to May

Wonder if they're still using the Google sheet to tally like they were in the 2010s

I believe in the MDP rules it's multiple rounds of voting with the lowest dropping out until there is a majority. Could you do me a favor and tell me when the AG race is decided?

I believe it is the 21st at 5PM

Looks like we are still on trajectory to get W term 2 numbers by the end of 2027

I also simultaneously think blaming this room of rank and file for a Trump election is also very silly. Dems voted for Dems and Republicans voted for Republicans like they always do. Gotta win the vibes battle to win Presidential years, and this historic class of Dem electeds don't have the juice.

Not to be too cynical here, but really Dems just need a slightly better version of the 2022 coalition to continuously win off-year elections. In this case getting the person who sat out 2024 to vote and having one of the vibes podcast 2024 voters to sit out 2026 are equivalent.