it was so good of the LPC to give some rando without any time in politics their leadership and the PMs office twice.

They can go sit as independents, that's sorta the only way to do what you're suggesting.

And what did their constituents vote for? Because it wasn't the LPC since the LPC candidate would've won if they did. They aren't representing their constituents by crossing the floor to a party that their votes voted against.

We shouldn't allow people to switch parties. If they can't sit with their current party then they can sit as an independent and run under a different banner in the next election giving their constituents an actual say.

Unlike Hungary we had an ever so mildly progressive govt not a far right puppet of Russia. Like the US however we killed our left wing to empower the centre which went rightward normalizing the positions of the far right which we elected the centre to keep away from power.

Fucking mornonic since your argument would suggest the NDP shoudlve called an election when they polled well instead of am getting policy concessions since more seats is more power.

Power for power sake doenst give us good policy.

So you'll tolerate your MPs having no responsibility to enact the policies and hold to the values they promised their constituents to get elected because it's just the way things are?

The NDP bloc and greens are right fucking there two of which each had enough seats to pass anything the liberals wanted but instead Carney played games to get votes without concessions then he promised a concession to the greens only to immediately do the exact opposite (quite on brand for Carney)

Whether it was smart for a party its bad for our democracy.

most struggling provinces on near every front from cost of living to wage stagnation to goddamn healthcare shortages. But it makes some rich people very rich unlike affordable medicine so Carney's govt is fine with it.

offshore oil project that was blocked by our provincial libs and Carney's own predecessor and colleagues. The billion was for fines and fees we'd have to pay all so a foreign oil company can drill and sell our oil while giving us tiny royalties. Thats not pragmatic, not when NL is already one of the

get abandoned. Public service and safety net funds get restricted and cut while crisis worsen. My province of NL for example under liberal rule was denied talks for pharmacare funds were entitled to by the federal libs. Carneys govt however had no qualms just giving up a billion dollars for an

Nothing this govt has done has been pragmatic unless you view it with the goal of helping the rich get richer. The average Canadian is having their future sold for pennies on the dollar for fossil fuel extraction while things that actually produce lots of jobs short and long term like clean energy

Unity doesn't mean shit if that unity does more harm than good and so far all Carney has really done is harm the average Canadian.

Like the NDP. Or the Bloc. Or the Greens? Two of which have each had enough seats to pass anything the liberals vote unanimously on but Carney refused to deal with them instead playing chicken with elections and working with the CPC to get his regressive policies passed and he blatantly lied to GPC

Floor crossing ensures your mp doenst have to care a bit about what they run on.

Or maybe we should support the NDP which actually has a presence in Alberta and isn't paving the way for the far right to take power.

Why rethink it when Carney's normalizing it?

There's nothing unethical about running on one set of policies then switching to a party opposed to those policies and stances?

It being built into our system doenst make it good like how fptp isn't good despite being the standard and how women not having the right to vote was bad but standard.

Is this some kind of gotcha, "look you're talking badly about a bad thing when the bad thing is happening but it's happened before so why now"? Because it's happening now so people are talking about it.

Going from the CPC to LPC is a massive change in what you can grow for, NDP to LPC is a change in what you stand for. Even if constituents aren't voting for party colour they're voting for party policy presented though those candidates.

And if you have a prime minister and ruling majority that care not for the people in the present or the future and whose only fucking interest is enriching the rich no matter how badly it harms our country. There's no beneficial action to be found.

He once got a vote he desperately needed from the greens by promising he'd not abandon climate change, the very next day he was abandoning those initiatives. He played chicken with his budget to extract votes without concessions.

He was the barrier to all but the CPC supporting him.

Every single party but the greens had the power to pass LPC proposals without any other party since Carney got his election win. The greens had that power a few days ago.

Carney refused to work with any of the parties but the CPC because he wanted to pass incredibly harmful and regressive policy.

Okay so let me get this straight, the voters wishes and the politicians promises mean literally nothing.

A party that holds people both pro and anti torturing queer people is a party that is fine with torturing queer people if it gets them towards power.

It's literally a complete betrayal of why someone is elected and unlike sitting as an independent it doesn't help their fucking consisteuntes unless the sitting govt is purposefully withholding resources for half the country.

Our already skewed democracy is so well served by having MPs completely abandon the positions they were elected on. Hell at this point I say we get rid of the whole campaigning thing and let voters vote for who they'd most like to drink with and then let these people decide what the public want.

the very fucking reason their constituents elected them.

How is it not undemocratic? It being allowed is not an argument since that would mean women not having the vote wasn't undemocratic.

MPs are elected on their platform that they demonstrate during their campaign, most candidates just run their party's platform. Floor crossing is a betrayal of