NJT does not check tickets on the metlife train on the assumption everyone transfers at secaucus and goes through the fare gates.

Fun fact: pedestrians, bus pax and Uber pax do not go through a gate before boarding

While I didn't involve myself in the gateway process or EIS, I don't see how it would be any different to those I have been party to. My favorite was when a park was removed for a road and the EIS proudly stated that no parks were affected or required mitigation

Every public meeting Ive been to, a member of the public asks "um, can we get sidewalks...?" and the response is "sorry thats out of scope"...so yeah, what else can one do but sue?

Security probably means checking stadium tickets before boarding to ensure trains arent full of non-attendees. You can do that with temp staff that makes $22 an hour with no benefits. Or you can pay Sully and Hitchcock $327 an hour to help them plump up their pension numbers.

The more likely scenario is that NJT is simply lying about those requirements. They probably created a plan that maximizes the number of 3x OT hours staff can charge assuming someone else would deal with it.

SEPTA budget: $2.7bn. Can provide transit service to a stadium, using existing trains on an existing line, like any other year.

NJTransit budget: $4.7bn. For the first time ever, CANNOT provide transit service to stadium, using existing trains on an existing line.

Weird right?

Meadowlands opened in 1976, rail wasn't added until 2009, and even though it cost $300m, they built it on the cheap. Indirect with just a capacity of 20k per event.

Had gateway incorporated a public process, maybe there would have been a station in union.

Same with njt. The public feedback phase is a formality at best

Unclear where the legal walking path is that NJTransit wants retail employees to take

Also lmao at "walk from nearby transit hubs" while simultaneously reminding everyone it's impossible to walk to the mall.

NJ doesn't want anyone, including thousands of retail employees, to be able to access one of the largest malls in the country on match days.

Transit agencies underestimate how "I didn't know that was an option" is so common. Every other industry advertises for new business. Transit takes pride in making people work to figure things out

Watch From, its the Lost reboot. Season 4 just started

I'm old enough to remember when metro north sold them too

Even though NJT operates a dozen bus routes into Philly, it seems that the state would prefer that no one book a hotel in NJ while visiting. Incredibly hostile.

The plan has a rideshare dropoff area at the racetrack, which is fine...or people can just select the mall as a dropoff.

They just built a second ped bridge from the mall to the stadium for the WC!

Go watch the tornado.

Why is NJT charging $150 to go 5 miles?

Here is the math:

They're claiming a $48m cost.

They're selling 40k train tickets for 8 games = 320,000 seats

$48,000,000 / 320,000 = $150.

That's it. That's the math. No demand analysis. Not one second of thinking "hey, won't people Uber instead?"

Lmao

A typical car holds 5. Why wouldn't people pay $225 instead of $750?

There are 5,000 spaces available at the mall for the games

Exactly.

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The people paying 4 digits were never going to be transit riders.

The people paying face value - $60 - $300 - were. And now theyll be Uber customers.

Huge contrast between NYC, where taxes are being used to fund good things, and NJ, where apparently public services should be run at a profit for only the rich.

Can you ask if all future concerts and NFL games will have a same "no public subsidy" policy?

Also see my thread on why this is a bad precedent for transit in general. Transit is supposed to be for everyone. Democratic. The great equalizer. Gov shouldn't be deciding if you deserve it based on your trip purpose.

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And even if someone splurged and paid $600 for a once in a lifetime chance to see their family team play at home...they did that assuming a $12 train trip. Demanding $150 at the last minute is extortion. All these details had to have been finalized before tickets went on sale a year ago.

You're falling for tabloid propaganda.

Official tickets for group games were $60-$400. Which is cheaper than concerts, in line with Giants games, and a fraction of the Super Bowl.

Should public transit to stadium events be partially subsidized?

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