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yes to both topics!

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I thought this was a great video on a topic I have a lot of feelings about. Folks don't quite understand the economics of making games, especially the costs differences of paper and plastic.

Such a shame! This game really stepped out of its way to be different and I have a lot of respect for it. It also got some really uncharitable reviews when it released and it was disappointing to see that reception.

Amazing video. Required viewing for the "board game literacy" curriculum.

Investigating Board Game Miniatures YouTube video by No Pun Included

This @nopunincluded.com look at the logistics of making/shipping miniatures (bigatures) is great. Are customers buying the games or, really, just after miniatures? Are sculptors credited? Is making cards cheaper? Are companies "paying to ship air across the world" ?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kNO...

Like, by now multiple publishers have seen this video. None of them have said this is incorrect. Some have said that this is exactly correct. Why are we arguing about this, buddy?

This feels like a plausible number. Let's say it's hypothetically more expensive and it's $0.04. Now it's 4.8 US$. I could believe this was a cost someone would have paid. But my main point is. Why are we talking about this? What is the point?

I mean, this is just one example I was given by the publisher, and sure, it's maybe on the expensive side of per card cost. But that does not in any way invalidate what I'm saying. If we level the cost of $0.03 for both mini and card, in this same example the production cost of GWT cards is $3.6

That's clearly not what I am saying, please try to engage with what I have actually said.

The mistake you are making is you are evaluating per unit basis. But board games are costed not per each individual unit that goes into them. You have to consider the total of what goes into a box and then average it out. You have to compare not just weight but volume, etc. etc.

I refer you back to the example I give where counterintuitively, because shipping containers have a weight limit, a big box filled with miniatures is cheaper to ship than the same size box filled with cardboard. I urge you to weigh same volume boxes with paper and plastic.

All these things work differently and are costed differently for different types of components. The $0.13 and $0.03 numbers I've pulled from a specific example given to me. In that same example, a card's cost was also listed as $0.20.

The big thing is shipping of course, which factors into the cost in a big way. The other is scale. A board game will often have maybe 20-30 minis if it's mini heavy, but even an average board game like GWT has about 200 cards. So you have to factor in artwork, rules writing etc.

I appreciate your vehemence as you are asking these question on multiple platforms. I've already replied to you on reddit, I will also reply here.

There are so many factors you are not considering here, which are the same factors I wasn't considering when I interviewed people for this subject.

Investigating Board Game Miniatures YouTube video by No Pun Included

Lots to think about! I definitely got into board game kickstarters with mini-heavy offerings and this lines up pretty well with how I feel about minis now: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kNO...

Been trying to tell my fans for years that minis are super cheap to make and do not actually make a game more "premium"

Glad to see it properly exposed with plenty of nuance

Sending this video next time someone asks why one of my games is 80$ when its "just (500+) cards" and no minis.

Cracking video.
As a publisher with exactly one game under my belt, I did a cartoon double-take at the cost for plastic versions of a component we were getting a quote for.

Similar to the time I found out how “linen finish” cards are made, and the cost to create that premium component.

Investigating Board Game Miniatures YouTube video by No Pun Included

And it's live! youtu.be/0kNO4TzeUnU

Here we go!

youtu.be/0kNO4TzeUnU

Starting to feel like companies called "Gunzilla" shouldn't be big enough to own other companies.

This video has been a real labour of love and took us a long time to put together. It's a 45 minute essay on board game miniatures - if that sounds dry - we promise it isn't. You'll learn, you'll laugh. Hopefully you won't cry. Anywho, do tune in! It would be lovely to see you there at launch.

a brown miniature of the Iron Fist Alexander character from the video game Elden Ring. there is a finger pointing at it and the caption reads The Real Cost

Hey folks, tonight 7pm BST we'll air "Investigating Board Game Miniatures"

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Pro tip: if you want your work to not come across as if it was written by AI - just use the c word and you're good.

Christ...

Jim Trinca, are you saying you cannot fix a turd?

Happy Easter