Elsewhere in the episode they dedicate time to outré post punk pioneers Devo, shout out the pipes on Lydia Lunch, dwell on punk’s dub and hip hop influences as expressed through a classic Clash track, and unpick the aesthetics of uptightness.
They discuss the infamous Sniffin’ Glue magazine, visit Dial House to ponder the ultimate UK DIY heroes Crass, and spin some of the most out-there No Wave cuts NYC had to offer.../
Do It Yourself!: POST-PUNK pt.3
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@jemgilbert.bsky.social and Tim are continuing our mini-series on post-punk with a healthy dollop of DIY culture.../
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Tim & Jem paint a picture of Arthur’s explorations in countercultural living, refute the idea that he simply wasn’t good at finishing things, and introduce the musician as an avatar for the particular melting pot of NYC music and art culture. Join us next time to see us go bang…
We begin with the story of Arthur’s early life in Iowa and his move to San Francisco, including experiences with Buddhism and drugs, alongside musical instruction from the great Ali Akbar Khan.../
LITM Extra - First Thought, Best Thought: Arthur Russell pt.1
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@jemgilbert.bsky.social and Tim Lawrence begin a patrons mini-series on Arthur Russell.../
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Finally, we introduce a major character in out story over the coming months: Arthur Russell...
The guys unpack how funk and reggae were influencing bands like The Contortions in their experimentation with rhythm, visit the CBGB club in New York, and dispute received ideas about the division between punk and disco.../
They discuss where the term came from, what exactly the ‘punk’ it was following was, and some the music’s early proponents. With reference to The Slits, Wire, Talking Heads and more, we hear about the Hacienda, John Peel, Modernism and Mark E Smith.../
'THE NEW MUSICK': POST-PUNK pt.1
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A historical period, an unhelpful genre descriptor, a structure of feeling? @jemgilbert.bsky.social and Tim Lawrence return to 78 to explore post-punk.../
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Jeremy and Alex discuss blues rock, ‘sophsti-pop’ and Sting, the folk club legacy of the North East, Prefab Sprout, the smallpipes and the Sultans of Swing.../
Alex talks us through the particulars of the region, one of Britain’s main post-industrial heartlands, exploring through music various expressions of white working class identity and a particular form of masculinity that artists have variously embodied or pushed against.../
Our interest in this subject was piqued by Sam Fender’s victory in last year’s Mercury Music Prize. Fender is himself an artist indebted to our recent subject, Bruce Springsteen.../
THE MUSIC OF NORTH EAST ENGLAND with Alex Niven
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@jemgilbert.bsky.social is joined by @alexniven.bsky.social
to talk about the musical history of England’s North East.../
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Jeremy describes how Springsteen’s songs of New Jersey post-industrialisation were heard in the cities of North West England, Tim interrogates his endorsement of Obama, and both try to understand his unique mass appeal in the USA.
We hear about the sense of place in his music, the influence of Dylan on his writing, the iconography of the small town and the big car, and his various attempts to express a white vernacular working class experience.../
Tracing his life from his early career up to 1984, they unpack specificities of the Boss’s politics, his particular aesthetic, and the often confused reception of his repertoire.../
LITM Extra - BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
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@jemgilbert.bsky.social and Tim spend some time exploring the life and times of Bruce Springsteen.../
We also hear a potted history of the DSA, consider the particularities of Left Populism as a contemporary political tendency, spend time with Bernie and de Blassio, and appraise a couple of the incoming mayor’s early rap tracks.
Tim and Jeremy recount the emergence of Zohran as a political figure, his background and parents, his democratic socialist politics and what his election means for the Left and anti-imperialism more broadly.../
ZOHRAN MAMDANI
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@jemgilbert.bsky.social and Tim Lawrence celebrate the election of Zohran Mamdani as Mayor of NYC.../
On the music side of things, we hear a potted history of the conga drum, some drum and bass, electric thumb pianos, handmade amplifiers and an African cousin to footwork./
They also unpack the ‘resource curse’ of the DRC’s mineral stocks, the activities of companies like Apple and Tesla, and finish with a reflection from the great Franz Fanon.../
Beginning with the overthrow of Lumumba, they discuss the colonial and imperialist dynamics that have buffeted the country for the last half century, cycles of violence this engenders and the role of nations like the US, China, Rwanda have played in destabilising the country.../
SOUNDTRACK TO A COUP D'ETAT pt.3 : DRC Today
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@jemgilbert.bsky.social and Tim Lawrence review the music and politics of DRC from 1960 to today.../
If you want to take it right the way back to the beginning, here's our introductory episode...