Let's break down the perspective of each actor involved:

👉 Transfem employees: afraid of speaking up (otherwise HR/theyfabs will accuse them of "creating a hostile environment for gender-variant FOLX"). Massive pickmeism even from other transfems ("oh no you said something problematic!")

👉 HR/Corporate: they don't care about transsexual rights, they simply DON'T WANT to see "Corporation Corp. has an LGBTQ+ Discrimination Problem" on the front page of the New York Times

And who's the arbiter of what is pro- vs anti-LGBTQ? Yep, the theyfabs, and all their encroachment of "trans" orgs

👉 TEDx theymab guest: with 8 billion ppl on this planet, you can cherrypick any kind of person. Doesn't matter how misleading/non-representative they are wrt the trans community. If some high-ranking theyfab in a queer org finds him titillating, they *will* uplift him to be OUR spokesperson.

👉 Theyfab employees: they have nothing real at stake wrt HRT, transsexuality, societal attitudes towards *trans women*. They live in an alternate reality compared to us. To them inviting an opticsnuke bearded theymab (to miseducate the public about transness) is just a recreational pastime

Let's break down the perspective of each actor involved:

👉 Transfem employees: afraid of speaking up (otherwise HR/theyfabs will accuse them of "creating a hostile environment for gender-variant FOLX"). Massive pickmeism even from other transfems ("oh no you said something problematic!")

if being a trans woman feels overwhelming and you're scared to transition my advice is genuinely:

ignore ***all*** the social transition shit and get on an ADEQUATE* dose of estrogen NOW, don't take just a little, that's a waste of time, go loud

you can figure out the rest piecemeal as you go

"people who insist transition is required for being trans" lmao. yeah, you do have to transition to be trans—we're not a fandom.

HR/DEl/mainstream queer org GNC / non-binary / gender-variant art & representation ALLOWED: fat cis women, hairy trans women, butches, theyfabs, bearded theymabs NOT ALLOWED: twinks, feminine guys, femboys

Another big asymmetry is how mainstream queer orgs treat the two groups.
Enby art/representation = afab tomboys + theyfabs + occasional bearded theymab.

You never see >>femboys<< (or even neg-androgyny feminine guys) in mainstream/respectable DEI art.

"Gender stereotypes" / "beauty standards" are 99% of the time SLURS against femininity

Your average 90-year-old grandma that says
>Uh, the transgendereds? it's when… a boy becomes a girl right…?

is unironically less harmful than those HR/queer educator enbies. Because her knowledge is small-but-positive.

Cissexual queer educators otoh have BIG NEGATIVE knowledge (confident misinfo)

Your average 90-year-old grandma that says
>Uh, the transgendereds? it's when… a boy becomes a girl right…?

is unironically less harmful than those HR/queer educator enbies. Because her knowledge is small-but-positive.

Cissexual queer educators otoh have BIG NEGATIVE knowledge (confident misinfo)

Many cissexual non-binaries are Dunning-Kruger about transsexuality&dysphoria.

They confidently believe they know what they're talking about, because they're surrounded by fellow cissexual non-binaries that theorize and miseducate the public about transsexuality/dysphoria.

!?

I mean... yes?
Doesn't have to be that way, but it is, in practice.

I search "hrt" on your profile, and the only mentions are you being SALTY about trans women prioritizing their own needs (and being effective/truthful/abrasive in doing so)

Literally. Can you not grasp that for some people, "not looking ugly/masculine" is orders of magnitude more important than "being attractive to men (or anyone/whatever)"?

Women's bodies change too, but they don't become "a completely different thing" like males on testosterone do.

Macchiavelli portrait, but she's a woman

Now we are Dark Woke.

Your "everyone is valid, u dont need hrt" rhetoric (ubiquitous) has been a DISASTER for us trans women

We're no longer obeying the cissexual gender academics, even if it means sometimes saying Problematic™ or Non-Body-Positive things. Now we are Machiavellian.
Cry about it.

Consequences of various types of "pro-trans" rethoric Rethoric type Audience "If you care about your femininity/twinkness, you should start HRT because testosterone will make you the opposite, long term." "Everyfolx is valid! We're all one big united community!" Transfem reppers Reminded to start HRT Gaslighted into delaying HRT Normie cishets Learns why trans healthcare is important and shouldn't be delayed Gets the idea that transness is juts a fandom of pronouns and validity Cissexual enbies Very angry, because it infringes the validity & body positivity dogmas Feels good, because it fullfills the leftist ideals of being morally pious and virtuous

I put TRANSSEXUAL INTERESTS FIRST.

Even if it makes the gender philosophers and the body positivity activists feel uncomfy.

"Gender stereotypes" / "beauty standards" are 99% of the time SLURS against femininity

It's about disliking your own physical masculine (or feminine) body features.
Which, ya know, heavily depend on testosterone/estrogen and the timing of their levels.

Because dysphoria is not about "teehee i want to maximize the number of men i'm going to sleep with".

Nor some pop-normie mambo jumbo validity slop from Butler et al about identities and pronouns.

If "(un)desirability" / "(un)fuckability" the only thing that matters to you, in one's own appearance!?

Would you be happily willing to be as ugly as possible, if you were an hermit living alone in the middle of nowhere!?

Lmao that's just validity/"body positivity" (= be ugly and don't transition) slop that EVERY NORMIE (from terfs to queer theorists) agrees on.

You're mainstream and hegemonic. You're not helping us transsexuals.

Empathy for fellow transfems/reppers who are dysphoric and might regret masculinization

= "lalala you want want to fuck them! I'm totally not a cissexual transmisogynist!"

99%+ of the population doesn't need or want HRT.

They're not poor little meow meows, even if they put some pronouns in bio.

I don't feel morally obliged to whiteknight for them.

HR/DEl/mainstream queer org GNC / non-binary / gender-variant art & representation ALLOWED: fat cis women, hairy trans women, butches, theyfabs, bearded theymabs NOT ALLOWED: twinks, feminine guys, femboys

Another big asymmetry is how mainstream queer orgs treat the two groups.
Enby art/representation = afab tomboys + theyfabs + occasional bearded theymab.

You never see >>femboys<< (or even neg-androgyny feminine guys) in mainstream/respectable DEI art.

Ehhh those are 2 different groups of people saying that stuff TBH. The people who support NBs *also* support femboys (especially FtM or rainbow glitter gay-acting ones). The people who hate femboys tend to be trans women.

I disagree with the observ. in pic below

Even once you account for that, there's still a lot of asymmetry.

Many TW openly dislike femboys, but criticizing enbies is a faux pas / taboo.
The bar for being considered "enbyphobic" & getting canceled is MUCH LOWER towards enbies than twds femboys