He is a politician. It is in his nature. He is what is wrong with the UK. No standards, no morals just grift

I bet it will hardly register Syd. Not the correct parameters is it. Our country and its media have gone to shit and only the 'right' message gains any traction.

Majority of people do not realise or recognise the disparities George. We need to get better at showing named people did 'something' and we all suffer with its effect. They know the media names, not the bigger obscured ones. It sounds like a hunt but its more identifying the dangerous for everybody.

We need different types of politicians to secure equitable distribution of wealth. The current and historical lot already think it is equitable distribution, or they would actually do something about it.
WOULDN'T THEY

When regulators get offers of top jobs within these corporations they are meant to 'regulate' it is easy to see why the UK has a colluder rather than a regulator in each of its commerce and industry sectors

Is there a more corrupted supposed democratic bastion of freedom and fair play than the UK right now. As corrupt and corrupted as the day is long. Shitelites be gone

Is there a more corrupted supposed democratic bastion of freedom and fair play than the UK right now. As corrupt and corrupted as the day is long. Shitelites be gone

Take action - Get Ofwat's Board to reject the Thames Water creditors

Thames Water investors want to make their own rules to how they run a water company. Are demanding to be able to still dump waste into our rivers and bodies of water. Send Ofwat a message telling them to refuse the demands.
weownit.org.uk/act-now/ofwa...

Take action - Get Ofwat's Board to reject the Thames Water creditors

Try this Numenius. Their stub link must be incorrect, that was an automated message they ask me to share. Try this one friend.
weownit.org.uk/act-now/ofwa...

:-) Well I suppose we will have to wait and see friend. I predict there is a lot of world change to happen between now and then. Did I mention I was an optimist :-)

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lol. I am old don't ask me to quote dates :-)

Well maybe me and you try stay objective with each other friend as it unfolds. I am all for doing things differently to see if it can be better so the ideals from Greens appeal. I admit I do come from the position that absolutely anything is better than the chancers we have had for 30 years

I have a heap of Jam dvd's if you need and some motown tapes and a number of meat loaf 8 tracks 😁

:-) I will vote Green. They at least are not yet bought and do still have a lot of votes for leadership and policy. And a 3 way committee for leadership may bring unexpected benefit. It sounds like you have no preference as they are all as bad?

what on earth are you ranting at friend. ? Do you feel I am saying UK and meaning England ? or.... nope sorry can't understand. ??

:-) I think you may have a good marker with 90s.
If we could introduce the idea of removing the mandate by majority and go back to how it was at that point we could both be happy :-)

What would be your preference if the world was yours to command Anomander ?

Every 5 years and our press assure that what is voted is the establishment which just present flavours of what they think is appropriate. That is not demo cracy people rule. It is a managed beauty pageant every 5 years. It is not actual democracy is it. I can't deny that EU is even less so.

It can look crap no matter which way we view it. Maybe we all need to work harder to change our nations to do better with all our efforts. 🤷‍♂️

None of us would have to if we ran things differently. No loss of effect just a kinder way for humans. :-)

So no difference from my view. I believe that of the UK gov. But I could still freely travel EU, would have closer affinity with the citizens of the EU and believe the world needs a strong power to stand against what i believe is the worst modes of authoritarianism. So an EU with the UK is stronger

:-) Unless it is a citizen direct democracy then I am afraid I see them all as bad as each other. Giving citizens the speedy ability to declare no confidence and remove the mandate would go a long way to acceptability. Maybe we say 60-70% agreeing, calls a no confidence ?

Its as if they want that to be the last word isn't it. Wonder why, wonder who is trying to avoid the issue.

which comes first the control of all then the socialist order, or the socialist order to control them all. :-). I will take anything actually democratic friend.

My overall politic makes me want any organisation that moves us towards a single world order. lol, when I say it like that it sounds ominous. 😄
What I actually mean is a world run by the citizens of places together, rather than the disparate madness of leaders today :-) so EU ok, its a step towards

Fair reasons friend. I was sure you had some :-). Unsure of which country so unable to understand. I think your opposition is to the EU fundamentally though? I suppose UK people are rarely on the bad end of EU decisioning. Many like the togetherness of it, or at least the ability to travel it freely

Do you mind me asking what it was about the EU that made you wanted us to come out Anomander?

Do you feel the UK public were manipulated by lies, lying politicians and a compliant press in any way?
Our own fault we should just accept it and progress
However now it is clear it was global political machining the outcome of which has been detrimental for most
Should we instantly have a rerun?

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