Not that they will ever take responsibility and admit it! They go on and on about Starmer\s integrity when they have displayed a complete lack of integrity in their desire to unseat the UK PM.
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#pmqs The right wing (+ Gaurdian) newspapers + media must be so disappointed that their attempts to bring down a UK PM didn't work. They have been salivating over last few days at the prospect. The crux of all this is Olly Robbins should have informed PM that Mandelson didn't pass vetting process!
#pmqs While the world is on fire due to Trump's chaotic handling of his illegal war in Iran the House of Commons is more interested in trying to bring down the UK PM. He has done a brilliant job on the Iran war but let's forget that and talk about who sent what email when over Mandelson!
#ukpolitics #pmqs I would like to see a montage of Sky news Beth Rigby + Sam Coates for the last year and a half to see if at any point they have said anything positive about Starmer! The bias is so obvious. Starmer has made mistakes but has done a brilliant job with Trump's illegal war in Iran.
I see Sky news is continuing their anti Starmer news. He could have given us all a cheque for £10000 and Beth Rigby would slant that in the anti Starmer direction. The adulation of Olly Robbins is sycophantic in the extreme just because he has criticised Starmer! He had no evidence! #ukpolitics
#ukpolitics I see the media are still droning on about the Mandelson saga. I find it fascinating that none of them are questioning the fact that Olly Robinson has NO evidence to back up his claims! The anti Starmer media are still trying to unseat the UK PM. It is sad we do not have impartial media.
Interesting that the media and newspapers require Starmer to produce evidence for everything he says but are OK about the fact Olly Robbins had NO evidence of what he was saying. Perhaps speaks volumes about press and media obsession of trying to unseat the UK PM.
Didn't Farage attack Yougov a while ago because they were showing he was losing support? Interesting that they are now showing him getting back support. Wander who runs Yougov and how much pressure has been put on them....
Joyful in a world of darkness.
Also very interesting that I haven't heard any media demanding evidence to support what Olly Robbins said. He refused to name names and couldn't remember who had seen DV but yet he was willing to say Number 10 had a blasé attitude over the DV of Mandelson. Surely media are going to want evidence??
Media, newspapers etc have been trying to get Starmer to resign from the moment he got into office. He is held to higher standards than the Pope! He has made some mistakes (Mandelson a big one) but whatever he does media and newspapers will try to destroy him. We don't have impartial media in UK.
Hmm don't agree. The issue is that Robbins should have informed the PM and Foreign secretary about Mandelson's DV advice. Robbins must have known it could put PM in difficult position if he didn't know Mandelson had not passed vetting. Robbins is highly paid man and had a responsibility to Govt.
Anyone who advertised this as must see and needing popcorn has obviously not been to a good film recently! The constant repetition + lack of names + lack of evidence makes it all a waste of time...
This all feels like it is a Mcsweeney issue not a Starmer issue and I am very surprised that a highly paid leader of FCO wasn't able to push back against people he seems to be unwilling to name! If you are making accusations you need to name names + produce evidence of it all - can't see evidence.
The massive issue with evidence from Olly Robbins is he isn't willing to say who put pressure on him over Mandelson or who put pressure on him over Matthew Doyle. If he doesn't have evidence of who then he shouldn't be saying it. Robbins was also paid large amounts of money to withstand pressure!
Where is evidence of this constant pressure or that the cabinet office didn't think vetting was necessary? When pushed Robbins refused to say WHO was putting pressure on him! He is highly paid Civil servant paid to withstand pressure + also voice concerns. He should have told PM about DV concerns!
Robbins is a highly paid Civil Servant. He is paid to be able to take pressure + push back against it if he feels it is wrong. He is also paid to inform Govt of anything that is a national security concern. He doesn't seem to have kept notes of who put pressure on him or who he told about DV!
Be very interesting to see the evidence of this and who was putting this pressure on him. Robbins seems unwilling to say who was putting 'constant pressure' on him. Who urged Fido to appoint Mandelson without vetting? Where is the evidence of this? He needs to provide this because I doubt it was PM!
Olly Robbins was paid huge amounts of money to head of FCO. He was paid to voice his opinion. He wasn't a junior clerk. When DV advice came through he should have voiced his opinion to PM and information that Mandelson hadn't passed the DV. There is no excuse for him withholding this information.
Sorry but where is the evidence of the dismissive attitude? Also Olly Robbins is not a junior clerk he is paid huge amounts of money to head up the FCO. If he read the DV vetting and felt Mandelson shouldn't have been appointed he was PAID to voice that opinion or at least let PM know outcome of DV.
#ukpolitics Even if Olly Robbins had pressure to appoint Mandelson he should have given PM information about vetting. There is no real excuse for him not to have shared that information at the beginning or when everything blew up. He is paid vast amount of money to be head of FCO!
I don't think Olly Robbins has a leg to stand on. He isn't some junior clerk he was head of FCO. He should have shared this information with PM. It beggars belief that he didn't share it at the beginning and even when Mandelson was proved liar he still didn't share this information. Why?
Olly Robbins was being paid huge amounts of money to do his job as head of FCO. He was being paid to make difficult decisions. Surely if he saw this he should have told PM. Even if rules say he shouldn't or pressure was being put on him to appoint Mandelson this information should have been shared!
Olly Robbins was being paid large amounts of money to be head of FCO and to make difficult decisions. Even if pressure was being put on him to appoint Mandelson he should still have let PM know about Mandelson failing vetting given circumstances. I don't think he has a leg to stand on.
#ukpolitics Even if Olly Robbins says there was pressure to appoint Mandelson he was a top civil servant being paid a large amount of money to run the foreign office. Surely he would cover his own arse by making sure PM and foreign secretary knew Mandelson hadn't passed vetting? It doesn't add up.
Nobody is happy the PM appointed Mandelson (even Mandelson!) but we have gone over and over this over the last 6 months and he has acknowledged he shouldn't have appointed him. The world is in chaos at moment with Trump and cost of living is going into crisis again - we need to spend time on that!
This isn't stories about paedophiles this is parliament, media and newspapers trying to get a PM to resign! I am very happy for Mandelson to be prosecuted, Trump to be prosecuted, Andrew to be prosecuted etc But this naval gazing in HOC isn't helping any of the Epstein victims!!!!
@eddavey.libdems.org.uk OMG we are sick and tired of hearing about Peter Mandelson! There is chaos in the world created by Trump and people have rising petrol prices. This continual navel gazing by parliament is why the public don't have time for Parliament. MOVE ON! Starmer won't resign!
Also Sky reporting where they positively salivate at the prospect of bringing down a UK PM!
What has come out of this afternoon:
1. Keir Starmer is NOT lying
2. It was right to sack Olly Robbins - he failed to inform Govt
3. Starmer will not be Labour leader by this time next year
4. We need some stability NOW while Trump causes chaos
5. We need to move on from Mandelson
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