Women's naturalization is still confusing to me. I have a naturalization record for my GGM from 1923, but I always thought she automatically became a citizen when my grandfather was naturalized. That's another law that maybe went into effect later that I'll have to research. #GenHour
No worries. I didn't know either. The link you posted helped me understand naturalization better and then I researched further and found the timeline for the 2 and 5 year rules. #GenHour
Also on the National Archives site I found this: www.archives.gov/research/imm...
But the 5-year rule was the new law after 1906. I also found that before 1906 there was only a 2-year law for applying for citizenship. It looks like my GGF may have gotten citizenship under the pre-1906 law. #GenHour
#GenHour In any case, Manhattan is coextensive with New York County so there would only be 1 certificate rather than your proposed count of "one for NYC, one for NY county".
#GenHour I am not a pro at NYC and NYS research so it's best to talk to someone who is. Here's the NYG&B's Guide.
www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/new-york-bir...
I wonder how this would work for New York. Would there be more than 3, for example, if someone died in Manhattan and was buried in Westchester? Would there be 4 death certs? NYC, NY County, NY State and Westchester County? #GenHour
#GenHour Given how BlueSky's hashtag search works, it's easy to miss earlier posts in the discussion where we already knew it was a certificate Rebecca had just ordered & received.
No worries. I didn't notice. I think my attention to details has taken a vacation today.😆 Such as me not seeing the 2026 date on a birth certificate on an earlier post in #GenHour. I'm glad you pointed that out.
#GenHour In other words (to borrow a phrase from Judy) "it depends"
Really interesting. After reading Judy's articles, it makes a lot of sense. So it sometimes happens, depending on the state, for there to be 3 death certs: 1 for state where person died + 2 more for county & state where person was buried. #GenHour
It's a death notice, and there's no sign of it in any of the other local papers, so it's now on to Plan C (Plan B was the death notice). I just need to think up a Plan C now... #GenHour
#GenHour Oh, that's tricky. The federal system of Naturalization (vs. old law) takes effect on September 27, 1906 so the changeover to the new forms is taking place right in that window. www.archives.gov/research/imm...
I've been looking for years and never found it. I wonder if he really was naturalized. He was only in the US for 2 and a half years before he died, from June 1906 to Jan. 1909. I didn't think he could be naturalized that quickly & that maybe he only filled out the petition & declaration. #GenHour
#GenHour One of the questions on the EE site talks about that very issue, because they've got Massachusetts vital record registrations about a marriage that took place in Enfield, Connecticut. Massachusetts also registered the event in bride & groom's towns of residence.
#GenHour What an interesting question! I hope your niece can find what she needs.
My only foray into research on ambulances in wartime is from WW1 and from the other side of the pond, so I'm afraid I can't help.
#GenHour The 2nd link I posted from TLG site talks about how multiple copies of "the same" certificate can have different information. For Massachusetts, the same vital record can sometimes show up in three different towns, and I always want all three because there's no guarantee they'll all match.
Also two other things that stick out with this certificate (not including that it was typewritten):
1. His father is listed as being 35. 9 days earlier on his father’s death certificate, it says that he’s 34. (Ok, close enough.)
2. It doesn’t mention that his father is decease!
#GenHour
Oops - I’m a little late for #GenHour. If anyone can help with information about WW2 ambulance trains my niece would be immensely grateful.
#GenHour It sounds like you have some good clues! Do you have the natz certificate yet?
#GenHour The EE site is fabulous. You can see what questions people ask, and ESM talks them through the answers. It really helps me think.
The questions where she talks about Family Search and Ancestry displaying images out of order were real eye openers.
Thank yo, Yvette. I’ll try to get the original and I’ll let #GenHour know how it goes.
#GenHour This is part 2 of the discussion
This is how I learned if someone is buried in another state there will be multiple certs, and often in 2 counties if the death is in one place and the cemetery is in the county next door.
www.legalgenealogist.com/2015/01/22/f...
Thank! I’ll take a look at this. #GenHour
#GenHour I wonder what the rules are for NYC post-Consolidation for tranferring a body. Do you need multiple certificates to take a body to another borough? www.legalgenealogist.com/2015/01/21/d...
#GenHour This is a 2026 certificate of a historical birth event. See the date on the image?
Only evidence I have of his death is my great GM's passport app stating she's a widow & husband died on a specific date in NYC. Side note states he completed his nat certificate. They were living in the lower east side, but since NYC can mean any of the 5 boroughs, I'm keeping that in mind. #GenHour
In terms of evidence analysis, this is a derivative. This is not the original form in which it was recorded. It may have copy errors, could have silently incorporated later amendments, etc. #Genealogy #GenHour
#GenHour This weekend I hope to get back to analyzing wills. Wills where aunts and uncles leave bequests to their nieces and nephews are a real treasure, so I'm really looking forward to how one of the wills I found this week will help with family reconstruction.
From my understanding, an original would have to have a seal, but maybe that wasn't the case 100+ years ago. #GenHour
#GenHour I also treated myself to the Kindle edition of Elizabeth Shown Mills' "Student and BackPack Edition" of Evidence Explained, Your Stripped bare Guide to Citing & Using History Sources. For the times when I can't lay hands on my hardcover of Evidence Explained.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...
