Page from Jonas' De institutione regia on good and bad royal ministers.
#JonasBootcamp finishes by considering topics Jonas didn't write to Matfrid about, as compared to those in his later works, like just judging!
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I think I need a break from the #JonasBootcamp: I'm getting irritated with Augustine for claiming that polygyny/men's multiple partners may be OK if it increases the number of children born, whereas polyandry/woman's multiple partners can only be to satisfy their lust. #DoubleStandards
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Last day (for the moment) of #JonasBootcamp and I'm quite tired, so it may be a short day. But let's see whether I can get through Book 2 chapter 4
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#JonasBootcamp Reading Savigni on eccesiology means swapping paragraph-long sentences in Latin for paragraph-long sentences in Italian 🤣
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Book (Giona di Orleans una ecclesiologia carolingia) + coffee.
#JonasBootcamp relocates for some Carolingian ecclesiology
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#JonasBootcamp Just Googled to check if "chaster" was an English word and one of the first results was an app for those practicing "chastity" as part of erotic sexual denial. I feel Augustine or Jonas might have to write a whole new book to cover that one!
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Day 5 of #JonasBootcamp and I'm feeling fed up with the concubines. I probably need to do something else and then come back to them later.
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Partial list of Latin words and their English equivalents.
#JonasBootcamp I need to do a revised version of the translation decision list that @pseudo-isidore.bsky.social and I compiled for translating Hincmar's "De Divortio". It's particularly needed for keeping terms concerning marriage/sex consistent (and spelling of proper names!)
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#JonasBootCamp I've just finished Book 2 chapter 3, so I think I need a break before going onto the concubines of chapter 4. Jonas has a lot to say about concubines...
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#JonasBootcamp: Jonas faces pro-marital sex arguments: "Our wives are joined to us by law; if we use them at our will, when and how we want, we do not sin. But we are guilty of a greater crime, if we abstain from the embrace of wives, and we do not procreate the children we should procreate."
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Physiotherapy this pm, so #JonasBootcamp Day 4 starting & maybe finishing early. Jonas quoted Augustine from De nuptiis et concupiscentia: "God gives some good things to us that are to be desired for themselves, like...health." Augustine was in his 60s when he wrote that: I know what he means now.
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#JonasBootcamp Jonas implying Carolingian slaves were sexually exploited: "those men approaching the tie of marriage should take very much care, that they may be corrupted neither secretly with prostitutes, nor openly with ancillae, before they tie themselves by the bond of a wife."
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A sunny afternoon is the hardest stretch of the #JonasBootcamp, but I still need to fire up the PC and avoid the sin of acedia/otiositas.
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#JonasBootcamp We're into wild and wacky bits of the Apocrypha, with Jonas citing Tobit 6 (Vulgate version) in which the disguised angel Raphael tells Tobias how to defeat a demon by burning a fish liver (plus three days of prayer).
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#JonasBootcamp Onto Book 2 chapter 2 of DIL, where Jonas breaks it to noblemen that sexual #DoubleStandards aren't allowed: "That men who wish to take wives, just as they desire to find them chaste and incorrupt, thus should strive to approach them chaste and incorrupt"
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#JonasBootcamp Finally got through all 181 lines of Book 2 chapter 1 of De institutione laicali, so I think I deserve a walk in the sun and refreshment before attacking chapter 2 (a mere 101 lines!)
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#JonasBootcamp Day 3: in which I regret that Jonas decided to add 50 extra lines to his second version of the current chapter. That means I also get Bede's sexist interpretation of the two women grinding together from Luke 17: 35.
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Coffee + Jonas' De institutione regia
#JonasBootcamp relocates to a cafe to consider the relation of 2 of Jonas' texts.
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#JonasBootcamp Fighting with a complex clause taken from Augustine, which I think is arguing that it's not praiseworthy giving up marital sex if you can't manage intercourse anyhow!
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Interesting view of Augustine's priorities here! #JonasBootcamp
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#JonasBootcamp Day 2 starts with Jonas quoting Augustine: "God gives some good things to us that are to be desired for themselves, like wisdom, health, friendship; others which are necessary for something else, such as doctrine, food, drink, sleep, marriage, sexual intercourse."
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#JonasBootcamp Part-way through looong Book 2 chapter 1 of De institutione laicali on marriage as good. Very Augustinian, but Jonas doesn't use Augustine on the Fall causing unwanted erections *and* impotence. (On Marriage and Concupiscence I,V: www.newadvent.org/fathers/1507...).
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#JonasBootcamp. Jonas isn't just writing "moralism" as Delaruelle claimed (see gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/b...). He has a vision of the church in Acts where brotherhood is genuine, where prayers and material sharing go together, that he wants Carolingian laymen to return to.
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#JonasBootcamp Finished Book 1 with Jonas lamenting modern society: "Truly, one can observe clearly that Christian professing (professio) in modern times (moderna tempora) is not practised so devotedly and religiously by many as it used to be practised by the ancient Christians."
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#JonasBootcamp update. I'm slowly working my way through the last chapter of Book 1, which Jonas made extra long. Just finding out why he calls the Babylonian commander of the guards Nebuzaradan the "prince of cooks": see jewishvirtuallibrary.org/nebuzaradan-2
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Wish me luck for this week's #JonasBootcamp in which I attempt to make substantial progress on my translation of Jonas of Orleans' ninth-century lay mirror De institutione laicali.
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