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#trialsofVinTear #session37
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P: passage cited a few tweets ago (the list of allusions) creates a sense of atemporality, as each allusion, requiring unpacking by even the most erudite reader, invites interpretation #session37 #aiascs
P: Ovid via Ibis reclaims time as a subjective experience that cannot be delimited by Augustan chronology #session37 #aiascs
P: 'tempus ad hoc' connects Ibis to the beginning of the Fasti and its connections to the Augustan regime and Julian calendar and also to the Met. #session37 #aiascs
P: 'perpetual immediacy' a common theme in the Ibis #session37 #aiascs
P: Ibis 279-298, the packed progression of allusions slows the tempo and causes pauses and deliberation #session37 #aiascs
Man, Ovid's Ibis is a bitter tour de force. Must read. @DailyOvid, is it on the 2018 syllabus? #session37 #aiascs
Poole: aims to consider the compression of chronology in the Ibis, deliberate on Ovid's part in order to enact a cognitive dissonance endemic to exile #session37 #aiascs
Last up: U. Poole, "Tempus ad Hoc: Synchrony in Ovid's Ibis" #session37 #aiascs
K: Ovid's dreamers derive dreams from external, divine sources #session37 #aiascs
Kachuck: Ovid's Byblis helps illuminate the structure of the Met. #session37 #aiascs
Next up: A. Kachuck, "Somnium Ovidi: Dreams and the Metamorphoses" #session37 #aiascs
Three minute coffee break! #session37 #aiascs
H: Ov at Tr. 1.7 refers to Althaea and calls his own books to be burned his children 'viscera' -- by burning his books, he burns all the instances of viscera contained within (if I were reading this as a paper, I'd put a huge checkmark here) #session37 #aiascs
H: Althaea claims M. as her own viscera at 8.478; viscera refers to M.'s own when he burns at 515-17; then Althaea kills herself by driving the sword through her womb #session37 #aiascs
H: on to death of Meleager in Met. 8, which Ovid refers to in Tr. 1.7, tied together by mention of viscera #session37 #aiascs
H: Canace's child refused expulsion from her own viscera; dying child and mother soon to die tied together by use of viscera #session37 #aiascs
H: early example of visceral metaphor in Ov. H. 11.39-42, Canace's attempted abortion, exposure of child, death of child #session37 #aiascs
Hines: viscus/viscera has two metaphorical defs: 1. womb, 2. offspring. 1st attestation of either at the end of the 1st c. BCE in Ovid. wombs and children are never visceral in Ovid without cause; accompany violent disruption of familial pietas #session37 #aiascs
Next up, C. Hines, "Ovid's viscera: Tristia 1.7 and Metamorphoses 8." Stephen Hinds: "Caitlin Hines - no relation." #session37 #aiascs
Other passages cited include Io, Heliades, Callisto, crow, Ocyroe/Hippe, Cadmus and Harmonia, Philomela, Myrrha #session37 #aiascs
C: Now on to Daphne and Apollo (?) #session37 #aiascs
C: Marsyas as case study. (moving a bit quickly, losing the thread here) #session37 #aiascs
Cullick: 1. focus on Ovid's exploration of violence as what it means to be human; brings gender politics into the mix, 2. apply a corrective to the view of victims as victims #session37 #aiascs
Next up: R. Cullick, "Transforming Violence in Ovid's Metamorphoses" #Session37 #aiascs
Today's plan: #Session37 "After the Ars: Later Ovid" and then #ancmakers! Note that the 2nd pres will actually be by @jtauber on Perseus 5.0 and OGL, and you do NOT want to miss how cool and powerful a tool it will be! Then dinner with @bjomino. It will be a great day! #AIASCS