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MP
Stewart, I’ve got to be honest,, if you’d told me that they'd given a chimpanzee a guitar and this is what he does…….
SL
Oh but Matthew that is such a idiotic thing to say, really. A chimpanzee doesn't even have the fingernails to play to make that sound right. You're better than that, right, you know - you really are, and you can't give a programme like this over to an artist like that and then throw that kind of stuff at them, not with the reading you've done and the interviews you’ve heard with him. You're on the BBC right, you've got to meet the challenge of a culture that is failing artists and failing the public in terms of exposing them to good stuff and you mustn't put that idea out there: you have to double back on it and the duty of a broadcaster is to support stuff not to undermine it. I'm sorry about that.
MP No, well, this duty of a broadcaster, duty of a broadcaster doesn't sound like Derek to me at all he had no Duty as a musician and I have I have no Duty except to express my own responses sometimes and that was my response it's an honest response yeah
SL
What, you wouldn’t be surprised if a chimpanzee was playing that
MP
I didn't see any sort of form to it, any sort of idea
SL
Well, I don't know how you can have gone through the research for this program and listen to the stuff and honestly I don't know where we… I don't know where we start with trying to communicate good stuff to people, I don't know where we start.
I mean a chimpanzee, also it's such a cliche idea to say a chimpanzee at least saying octopus or a wasp or something, for christs sake.
I wasn't sure if my internal radio rage had become manifest as I listened to Stewart Lee rebuking Matthew Parris.
Anyway turns out it hadn't and I transcribed this bit to make sure.
Great Lives: Derek Bailey
If you can't bear MP try from 23min to 25m 15s
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