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Cult Chat Episode 65 - Help! My Kid has been Sucked into a Cult with Renee Spencer
Cult Chat Episode 65 - Help! My Kid has been Sucked into a Cult with Renee Spencer Did you wake up one day to the realisation that your child has joined a cult? Are you struggling to know what to do? In today’s episode we discuss the challenges of having a cult controlling your relationship with your child, and trying to navigate the best path forward. Parent Renee Spencer talks to Lindy about the journey to understanding what happened and her efforts to reclaim an authentic relationship with her daughter after she was recruited into the Jesus Christians (aka the Kidney Cult). Show notes Documentary - The Dark Reality of the Kidney Cult - 7 News Spotlight Podcast of Liz's experiences of witnessing her daughter join a cult in on YouTube: ⁠https://youtu.be/WbUnis4Vyp8⁠ Podcast: Let’s Talk About Sects - The Jesus Christians Part One and Part Two Podcast: Let’s Talk About Sects - Cult Bride and Providence/JMS with Liz Cameron Book - Carol Giambalvo - Exit Counseling: A Family Intervention Article - Carol Giambalvo - Family Interventions for Cult-Affected Loved Ones Book - Steve Hassan - Combatting Cult Mind Control ISCA Article - What Impact Does Cult Involvement have on a Family Member ISCA Article - Steve K. D. Eichel (ICSA) For Families Who Suspect That a Loved One May Be Involved With a High-Demand Group (Cult) ISCA Website - general information about cult indoctrination for families Renee’s Website: ⁠www.recoverfromcoercivecontrol.com

"Help! My Child has Been Sucked into a #Cult with Renee Spencer"
Cult Chat
1 Jul 2025 [0:55:08]
#JesusChristians #KidneyCult
https://s.cultpodcasts.com/vtY_bGUylUKp5I_HJQaD2g

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Words of Love from Dave Friesen
Words of Love from Dave Friesen Before he tragically passed away, Brother Dave Friesen was healing and praying for the healing of many who had been wounded in "the Lord's Recovery." I share excerpts of an email he wrote to Steve Isitt in January, 2020, that I hope would help all of us to go on, as he encouraged Steve to do, over and over, in his email. Much love to his family.

"Words of Love from Dave Friesen"
Ruth Wise
22 Jun 2025 [0:10:31]
#TheLordsRecovery #JesusChristians #KidneyCult #Cult
https://s.cultpodcasts.com/_zeN1fuNx0mfXEHAkJg3IQ

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Witnessing my child join a cult (audio/podcast)
Witnessing my child join a cult (audio/podcast) Losing a child to a cult is an excruciatingly painful ordeal. In this podcast/video I share my story in the hope that it will inspire other families who have lost a loved one speak out and contribute to the Victorian Parliamentary Inquiry into the recruitment methods and impacts of cults and organised fringe groups. Freedom of religion, should never be an excuse to harm others. ➡️Inquiry details: https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/cofg 📰Article mentioned: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2002/apr/06/weekend.jonronson1 🎥 Documentary “The Dark Reality of the Kidney Cult” https://youtu.be/M_D64VS-Owc 🌏More about coercive control and cults in Australia: www.recoverfromcoercivecontrol.com 00:00 Introduction 02:33 Being a parent of child who joined a cult 08:15 Email Surveillance in Cults 10:39: Cult sympathisers / cult apologists 14:20 cults demonise families 19:40 Suing a cult leader for defamation 27:50 Cult leader's use manipulative psychology 31:31 Brainwashing in cults is coercive control 33:28 Cross examined by the cult leader 39:00 Australia, a place of religious tolerance? 43:20 This is what Spiritual Abuse looks like 46:45 Christian lobbyist's interpretation of Freedom of Religion 50:18 Victorian Inquiry into cults and coercive control

"Witnessing my Child Join a #Cult (Audio/Podcast)"
Recover From Coercive Control @coercionrecovery.bsky.social
14 Jun 2025 [0:54:20]
#CultApologists #JesusChristians #KidneyCult #PaulMackenzie
https://s.cultpodcasts.com/38nf0f97ZEGWanjWGxe0yQ

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Cult Inquiry Announced with Renee & Clare A parliamentary inquiry into cults and fringe groups has recently been announced in the state of Victoria (Australia).This inquiry has spurred a group of survivor advocates to join forces and work together to form the Victorian Cult Survivors Network.In this episode host Laura McConnell together with Renee Spencer and Clare Heath McIvor discuss their journeys into cult survivor advocacy and their hopes for the parliamentary inquiry in Victoria. The survivor group has members from a wide variety of cults and the moderators come from a variety of cult backgrounds themselves – Laura is a Truth 2x2 survivor, Clare is a survivor of Sale City Builders, Renee has a daughter in the Jesus Christians (Kidney Cult). The group works closely with Ryan and Catherine from Stop Religious Coercion, who’re survivors of the Geelong Revival Centre, Maria who is a survivor of Children of God, and others who’ve survived groups such as Scientology and Shincheonji. Show Notes: Podcast Socials LinksTiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@truth2x2survivorInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauramc.au/Website: https://www.lauramcconnell.com.au/ Victorian Government Inquiry into Cults and Fringe Groups: https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/cofg Renee Spencer’s Cult Rubric (and website) : https://www.recoverfromcoercivecontrol.com/how-to-spot-a-cult Clare Heath McIvor’s website: https://kitkennedy.wordpress.com/about  Links to Support: LBH good trauma informed, cult sensitive therapists and support are hard to find. Please persist and try to find one that works for you. If you’re in a tough spot right now, please know you’re not alone.                                                                                Here are some links to AU NZ supports and therapists which might be useful. https://www.thereligioustraumacollective.com/ As an Australian CSA survivor, the best support I’ve accessed at my lowest points, has been through Survivor Hub - https://www.thesurvivorhub. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"#Cult Inquiry Announced with Renee & Cla…"
Truth 2x2 Cult Kids @lauramcconnell.bsky.social
3 Jun 2025 [0:49:28]
#2x2s #TwoByTwos #GeelongRevivalCentre #JesusChristians #KidneyCult #ChildrenOfGod #Scientology #SCJ #Shincheonji
https://s.cultpodcasts.com/u9ADA0HKikO4y8lRJyUlOQ

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Inside The Kidney Cult - The Jesus Christians
Inside The Kidney Cult - The Jesus Christians

"Inside the #KidneyCult - The #JesusChristians"
Cilla Wet
17 Apr 2025 [0:43:49]
#Cult
https://s.cultpodcasts.com/E_Z_rdSpYkqDAAVs3-Gc0Q

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🌏 Cults in Australia: Are You Already in One?
🌏 Cults in Australia: Are You Already in One? Australia, the land of sweeping plains and freedom, harbours a darker side – one of high-demand groups and coercive control. In this video, I take you through an eye-opening journey to uncover the hidden truth about cults operating on Australian soil. From international giants like Jehovah's Witnesses, Scientology, and Twelve Tribes, to homegrown groups like The Family, Divine Truth, and Universal Medicine, these organisations thrive in the shadows, exploiting their members and leaving lasting harm. 💡 I'm Renee – a teacher and mental health practitioner passionate about raising awareness of coercive control and cult dynamics. After losing my daughter to a destructive cult, I've made it my mission to shed light on these hidden dangers. 🔎 In this video, I'll break down: - The key features of coercive control in high-demand groups. - An overview of 30+ cults operating in Australia, including some shocking stories. - How coercive tactics manipulate vulnerable individuals. - The fine line between harmless groups and harmful, controlling organisations. 🚨 Why this matters: Cults don't discriminate – they thrive on ignorance and exploit trust. With over 3,000 groups estimated to operate across Australia, it's time we open our eyes to the reality of religious abuse and coercive control. 📖 Learn more: Visit my website at recoverfromcoercivecontrol.com for resources, support, and my detailed rubric for evaluating harmful groups. 🙌 If you've had an experience with a group or have concerns, share your story in the comments or email me at coercionrecovery@gmail.com. Together, we can raise awareness and create change. 🔔 Don't forget to like, subscribe, and share this video to spread awareness and keep the conversation going. #CultsInAustralia #CoerciveControl #RecoverFromCoercion #mentalhealthawareness CREDITS & NEWS ARTICLES: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1noeBQCue3Jeqyr16QVfuE0bgJ79APGuUH4N5dOvRxkk/edit?usp=sharing

"Cults in Australia: Are you Already in one?"
Recover From Coercive Control
24 Jan 2025 [0:18:27]
#JesusChristians #KidneyCult #TheFamily #DivineTruth #UniversalMedicine #TwelveTribes #Scientology #JW #ExJW #Cult
https://s.cultpodcasts.com/Rrs-iEpjIEii_O3sBFxyvQ

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No kidding!
I was *there* during the 1970s.
Much as #Reagan40 was sooooo NOT the pivot needed in 1980 ....
All-in-all ..... 2024 is sooooo ... #TheWrongAlternative.
Asking for #BetterEducationPlease ... for upcoming #USVoters.
Btw ... #ReadYourJesusTestament ... all you so-called #JesusCHRISTians.

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The Jesus Christians – Part 2 In Melbourne you might have picked up a book or a comic from a Jesus Christian outside Flinders Street Station, or you could have seen their religious graffiti messages along Sydney’s railway lines. But while they portray themselves as an altruistic Christian community living life by faith and rejecting the money motivation of work, former members have been shunned and demonised, and parents tell heartbreaking stories of losing their relationship with their child after they have joined the Jesus Christians.Full research sources listed here. You can support us on Patreon. Sarah Steel's debut book Do As I Say is available on audiobook now.With thanks to The Finance and Property Survival Guide, presenting partner of Let's Talk About Sects.Links:JC History 1981 - 1996 — Jesus Christians official website, accessed December 2024Australians find godliness in latrines and sewers of Madras — by Tim McGirk, The Independent, 25 June 1994Kidneys for Jesus — Jon Ronson’s 2003 documentaryComments on Kidneys for Jesus — The Jesus Christians’ response to Jon Ronson’s documentary, accessed December 2024Blood sacrifice and Blood sacrifice (part two) — by Jon Ronson, The Guardian, 6 April 2002Kicked Out — by Alan, Making it Real, June 2013Why did we leave the Jesus Christians, led by Dave McKay? — by Sue, Making it Real, undatedThe Rise and Fall of the Jesus Christians — by Ross, Making it Real, 2013Australian Christian group fights claim it was linked to leader of Kenya starvation massacre doomsday cult — by Elle Hardy, The Guardian, 28 November 2023The Guardian's Shakahola Article by Elle Hardy | The Good, the Bad, and The Ugly — the Jesus Christians’ commentary on The Guardian article, undated Subscribe and support the production of this independent podcast, and you can access early + ad-free episodes at https://plus.acast.com/s/lets-talk-about-sects. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"The #JesusChristians – part 2"
Let's Talk About Sects @letstalkaboutsects.bsky.social
24 Dec 2024 [0:56:06]
#KidneyCult #Cult
https://s.cultpodcasts.com/_If31W-EfkecJtWlr1E4sQ

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The Jesus Christians – Part 1 The media coverage of the Jesus Christians tends to outweigh their size. Most people who have heard of them recognise the name ‘The Kidney Cult’, derived from an initiative where numerous members have donated one of their kidneys to a stranger. What may be surprising is that the person who first suggested that name was the Jesus Christians’ founder himself, Dave Mckay.Part 2 is already available to Patreon supporters, and will be released on the main feed on Wednesday 25 December. Happy holidays all!Full research sources listed here. You can support us on Patreon. Sarah Steel's debut book Do As I Say is available on audiobook now.With thanks to The Finance and Property Survival Guide, presenting partner of Let's Talk About Sects.Links:JC History 1981 - 1996 — Jesus Christians official website, accessed December 2024Australians find godliness in latrines and sewers of Madras — by Tim McGirk, The Independent, 25 June 1994Kidneys for Jesus — Jon Ronson’s 2003 documentaryComments on Kidneys for Jesus — The Jesus Christians’ response to Jon Ronson’s documentary, accessed December 2024Blood sacrifice and Blood sacrifice (part two) — by Jon Ronson, The Guardian, 6 April 2002Why did we leave the Jesus Christians, led by Dave McKay? — by Sue, Making it Real, undatedThe Rise and Fall of the Jesus Christians — by Ross, Making it Real, 2013Australian Christian group fights claim it was linked to leader of Kenya starvation massacre doomsday cult — by Elle Hardy, The Guardian, 28 November 2023The Guardian's Shakahola Article by Elle Hardy | The Good, the Bad, and The Ugly — the Jesus Christians’ commentary on The Guardian article, undated Subscribe and support the production of this independent podcast, and you can access early + ad-free episodes at https://plus.acast.com/s/lets-talk-about-sects. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"The #JesusChristians – part 1"
Let's Talk About Sects @letstalkaboutsects.bsky.social
17 Dec 2024 [0:52:39]
#KidneyCult #Cult
https://s.cultpodcasts.com/ImpoVMJMCUqf08IABLLdOQ

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The Jesus Christians – Part 1 The media coverage of the Jesus Christians tends to outweigh their size. Most people who have heard of them recognise the name ‘The Kidney Cult’, derived from an initiative where numerous members have donated one of their kidneys to a stranger. What may be surprising is that the person who first suggested that name was the Jesus Christians’ founder himself, Dave Mckay.Part 2 is already available to Patreon supporters, and will be released on the main feed on Wednesday 25 December. Happy holidays all!Full research sources listed here. You can support us on Patreon. Sarah Steel's debut book Do As I Say is available on audiobook now.With thanks to The Finance and Property Survival Guide, presenting partner of Let's Talk About Sects.Links:JC History 1981 - 1996 — Jesus Christians official website, accessed December 2024Australians find godliness in latrines and sewers of Madras — by Tim McGirk, The Independent, 25 June 1994Kidneys for Jesus — Jon Ronson’s 2003 documentaryComments on Kidneys for Jesus — The Jesus Christians’ response to Jon Ronson’s documentary, accessed December 2024Blood sacrifice and Blood sacrifice (part two) — by Jon Ronson, The Guardian, 6 April 2002Why did we leave the Jesus Christians, led by Dave McKay? — by Sue, Making it Real, undatedThe Rise and Fall of the Jesus Christians — by Ross, Making it Real, 2013Australian Christian group fights claim it was linked to leader of Kenya starvation massacre doomsday cult — by Elle Hardy, The Guardian, 28 November 2023The Guardian's Shakahola Article by Elle Hardy | The Good, the Bad, and The Ugly — the Jesus Christians’ commentary on The Guardian article, undated Subscribe and support the production of this independent podcast, and you can access early + ad-free episodes at https://plus.acast.com/s/lets-talk-about-sects. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

"The #JesusChristians – part 1"
Let's Talk About Sects @letstalkaboutsects.bsky.social
17 Dec 2024 [0:52:39]
#KidneyCult #Cult
https://s.cultpodcasts.com/ImpoVMJMCUqf08IABLLdOQ

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“Cult” Etymology: Looking back at past usage and exploring the contemporary meaning
“Cult” Etymology: Looking back at past usage and exploring the contemporary meaning The word "cult" often sparks confusion today, blending ideas of religion, community, and coercive control. In this video, I trace the etymology of word "cult" from its Latin roots and explore its historical usage to better understand how it aligns with contemporary notions of manipulation and control. #CultEtymology #WhatIsACult #CoerciveControl #LanguageHistory #WordOrigins #UnderstandingCults #SocialPsychology #ModernCults #HistoryOfWords #CultsExplained CREDITS: Music by Greeble Instagram: Greeble_ VIDEO FOOTAGE OF DAVID MCKAY 7 NEWS Spotlight: The Dark Reality of the Kidney Cult https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_D64VS-Owc IMAGES: Nick Cave stencil art By Ceescamel - Own work, CC BY-SA 4.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=70973607 Lady Gaga (in an interview for Vogue in 2024) By Condé Nast (through Vogue Taiwan), CC BY 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=154031395 Darth Vader, Emperor Palpatine, and Luke Skywalker By Mirko Toller - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mikotolino/33692546634/, CC BY 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=86127198 Capitoline Triad By Sailko - Own work, CC BY 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=70637693 Pelike. Plouton with a cornucopia and Demeter with a sceptre and plough. By the Orestes Painter. 440-430 BC By Orestes Painter - Marsyas (2007), CC BY-SA 2.5, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=1925724 OTHER IMAGES: Public domain, accessed on Wikipedia

"'#Cult' Etymology: Looking Back at Past Usage & Exploring the Contemporary Meaning"
Recover From Coercive Control
14 Dec 2024 [0:21:44]
#JesusChristians #KidneyCult
https://s.cultpodcasts.com/BlnQx5U5wkmrGR3qwRoENg

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Kidneys for Jesus
Kidneys for Jesus

"Kidneys for Jesus"
Brian Birmingham
24 Jan 2003 [0:49:50]
#JesusChristians #KidneyCult #Cult
https://s.cultpodcasts.com/UhpI_cJLaEGCuAm-jLhMCA

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Renee: La VALIENTE MADRE que le GANÓ a la SECTA del RIÑON "Jesús Christian | Como vivir por fe"
Renee: La VALIENTE MADRE que le GANÓ a la SECTA del RIÑON "Jesús Christian | Como vivir por fe" ¡Bienvenidos al canal de LeyAntiSectas! 📣 Únete a nuestra misión de combatir las pseudociencias y las organizaciones coercitivas. Ofrecemos asesoría personalizada para sobrevivientes y familiares. Reserva tu cita con Pablo Salum aquí: https://leyantisectas.com/reserva-cita/. 🥈 Hazte miembro y disfruta de beneficios exclusivos como acceso anticipado a videos, testimonios conmovedores y columnas únicas. Conviértete en parte activa de este movimiento: https://www.leyantisectas.com/hazte-miembro. ✨ Potencia tu negocio anunciándote en nuestras redes, sitio web y canal de YouTube. ¡Aumenta tu público con colaboraciones especiales con Pablo! Escríbenos a publicidad@LEYANTISECTAS.COM. 🎓 Aprovecha nuestras capacitaciones y talleres para profundizar en el conocimiento y protección ante estos riesgos: https://leyantisectas.com/capacitaciones-y-talleres/. 💪 **Apoya nuestra causa** - En Argentina mediante Mercado Pago: Alias “LEYANTISECTAS” o suscríbete mensualmente: https://www.mercadopago.com.ar/subscriptions/checkout?preapproval_plan_id=2c9380847a201eb7017a2a43c84e034a - Internacionalmente via PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/RedLibrementes 💬 ¡Tu Testimonio Salva Vidas! Para ser parte de la columna “Sobrevivientes”, puedes anotarte aquí: https://leyantisectas.com/tu-testimonio-salva-vidas/. 🙋‍♂️🙋‍♀️ ¡Súmate como activista de nuestra red Librementes y marca la diferencia! https://leyantisectas.com/sumate/. Diseño Grafico Fran Tellez: https://disenoft.cl/ 0:00 Bienvenidos y presentación del testimonio 0:46 Agradecimientos a suscriptores y miembros 1:26 Información sobre la red de voluntarios 2:27 Introducción a la entrevista con Renee 4:31 Descubrimiento de la captación de su hija 5:15 Comunicación con su hija antes de unirse al culto 6:10 Primeras señales de cambio en Alicia 7:52Detalles de la boda espiritual de Alicia 8:40 Comportamientos y cambios en Alicia 9:30 Características de la comunidad Jesús Cristianos 10:31 Métodos de control del grupo sobre sus miembros 11:19 Cambios en la relación madre-hija 13:06 Impacto en la familia tras la unión al culto 13:59 Dificultades para comunicarse con Alicia 14:51 Experiencias de Alicia en el extranjero 15:56 Cambios en la comunicación tras su regreso 16:49 Confrontación de Renee con Alicia 17:44 Indicadores de manipulación mental en Alicia 18:31 Intentos de intimidación de McKay hacia Renee 19:21 Demandas por difamación contra McKay 20:09 Testimonio sobre el juicio en contra de McKay 20:58 Reflexiones sobre el narcisismo de McKay 21:44 Relaciones de McKay con otros exmiembros 22:26 Expectativas sobre el futuro de Alicia 23:21 Conclusión sobre la experiencia de Renee 25:01 Consejos para padres en situaciones similares 25:40 Impacto emocional en Renee y su familia 26:41 Reflexiones sobre la lucha contra las sectas 27:29 Creación de conciencia sobre los peligros de cultos 28:21 Agradecimientos a la audiencia 29:13 Cierre y despedida 32:05 Invitación a unirse a la causa de Ley Anti Sectas 🎁 No te pierdas de nada, síguenos en todas nuestras plataformas: 🌐 Sitios Web: https://leyantisectas.com/ | https://redlibrementes.org/links 🐦 Twitter: https://twitter.com/LEYANTISECTAS 🎥 Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/LEYANTISECTAS 🗨 Telegram: https://t.me/PabloGSalum 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pablogsalum/ 📘 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PabloGastonSalum 📹 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/LeyAntiSectas 🎮 Discord: https://discord.gg/Ku5eXd8GKv 🎶 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@leyantisectas 📻 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0Z008F8F0FBpscTRo3XmPQ?si=04a550be560a42f8&nd=1 Gracias por apoyar nuestra lucha por una espiritualidad justa y libre de abusos, basada en la razón y los derechos humanos. ¡Juntos, hacemos la diferencia!

"Renee: La Valiente Madre Que Le Ganó a La Secta Del Riñon 'Jesús Christian | Como Vivir Por Fe'"
Pablo Salum | LeyAntisectas
29 Oct 2024 [0:32:43]
#JesusChristians #KidneyCult #Cult
https://s.cultpodcasts.com/YiXON2MkP0aYY8pLZQPyuw

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3 Things Christian Cult Leaders Say to Trap People
3 Things Christian Cult Leaders Say to Trap People In this video, I examine some of the hidden tactics Christian cults use to manipulate and control their followers and provide examples of groups that use the...

"3 Things Christian #Cult L…"
Recover From Coercive Control
8 Nov 2024 [0:02:44]
#JesusChristians #KidneyCult #TwelveTribes #PBCC #PlymouthBrethren #ChildrenOfGod #JW #ExJW #ShunNoMore2024 #BranchDavidians #Waco #Scientology
https://s.cultpodcasts.com/Z8TbPFkUpUyQ7-d0-Q0jNg

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