41. That’s a wrap on the discussion of “Star Trek: Ex Machina”. Thanks to everyone who posted, replied, reposted & liked. I would also like to thank author @clbennettauthor.bsky.social for joining & sharing his thoughts and perspectives. Thanks all!
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I remember what else I wanted to mention--the officer who laid into McCoy when Spring Rain was in sickbay. I understand her point but she was pretty heavy handed, I kept waiting for Christine to give her a talking-to. I'm glad she found out she was wrong about McCoy. #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
It is great sequel to ST:TMP. I enjoyed revisiting Yonada and it's people. The interaction between McCoy and Spock. In addition to Chekov's move into security.
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39. I couldn’t find any references to self-sealing stembolts (or Chateau Picard 😊). However, there were other callbacks to past Trek episodes. What were some of your favorite Trek references in #StarTrekExMachina?
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love the quote that history isn't the past but the interpretation of the past, and every generation writes it in its own image. That seems very apropos right now. #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
38. If there is a topic from the book you would like to discuss which hasn’t been mentioned yet, please post it here. Some potential topics include a favorite section, a memorable guest character or a favorite sequence.
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Kirk was more in the background than usual. This focused on Bones. Spock, and Chekov, with some Sulu. It pointed them towards taking on more responsibilities and/or command. #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
As we age we evolve into something better. That is what the Enterprise crew did. They took their experiences and grew from past experiences. What we do as a species.
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I think they'll work it out. They have made good progress together and seem to want a better future. #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
I really liked this part, seeing how these people and the sun got woven into the mythology of Yonada. Kirk says "History isn't the past, it's the interpretation of the past" and "we all create history in our own image". I'm sure this applies to Earth's history too #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
They all learned that they could adapt--Kirk to this new Enterprise and crew, Spock to his new balance between logic and emotion and McCoy to being a CMO to a wide variety of species. By TWOK, they were all comfortable in their roles in Starfleet. #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
There was an attraction there, but they had different goals in life. It was probably for the best. #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
I'm amazed that they survived in the asteroid for so long. Truly something they should be grateful for. #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
[Conclusion and Wrap Up]
37. What did Kirk, Spock and McCoy learn from this mission and how did this story ”bridge” their character development arcs between TOS & TMP with TWOK & later?
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They need to listen to and respect one another's viewpoints. The society can't just ignore the faith since that's part of their identity; their past. there has to be compromise and understanding. #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
I feel like they will evolve from this situation. They will find their purpose and meet the people's needs.
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36. How do you think Lorina colony and its leaders, like Natira and Rishala, will handle recent events? What would be some keys to success that they would need to do in order to thrive in the future?
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I really do not think that it would work. They did the nature thing and parted ways. With McCoy on the Enterprise, I highly doubt it.
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I think they could've made it work, but it would've been complicated. Plus, I don't know if he loved her enough. Would he really be happy on Lorina? I don't think so. I think he would've been wondering what was happening out there on the Enterprise. #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
35. McCoy and Natira discuss their future and realize they belong in different places, she on Lorina (for the good of the People) and he on the Enterprise. Was that the right decision to make? Could it have worked out for them to be together?
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Well with this world religion is key. This lesson on how to address religion as a entity of control like it is in this world, made them think otherwise. I say that the acceptance of the truth is a world about to evolve.
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Interesting, but understandable, how the truth had been hidden over thousands of years. The revolutionaries--both sets---must have realized that the current situation wasn't working and needed a drastic change, so the real thrutgh was hidden. #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
They just wanted the regulators in convicts, but the language had changed, and they misinterpreted the Creators' original intent. I thought this part was very fascinating. #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
I loved that scene. Went a completely different direction than I would have expected. #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
34. We discover the truth about Yonada’s religion, language and the Oracle. How was the accepted truth able to be changed over the years?
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It says a lot about how they created the Oracle to guide future generations to a world they can claim their own. They knew their world was dying. So they did the most logical thing to preserve their heritage.
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It showed us that the religion on Yonada wasn't just propaganda--the myth of the Creators and the concept of an "oracle" existed all along. It emphasizes that Fabrini culture wasn't entirely secular and the creators of Yonada wanted to ensure that carried on. #TrekBookClub #StarTrekExMachina
33. The narrative switched to the distant past. How did this section provide more explanations and motives of the original Fabrini, aka The Creators?
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By far Spock had the most mental discipline of the two. His knowledge /experience base out weighed Dovraku's. Even though he may have been strong-willed, he stood no chance.
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