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Who Goes Nazi?, by Dorothy Thompson

This is from 1941.

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Who Goes Nazi?, by Dorothy Thompson

This is from 1941.

https://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/who-goes-nazi/

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Especially when you read #Orwell1984 and #TheyThoughtTheyWereFree and see the similarities.

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They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 by Milton Mayer, an excerpt, 2017 edition

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"One had no time to think. There was so much going on.’"

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, "He is one of those rare birds among Germans- a European." One day, when we had be-come very friendly, I said to him, "Tell me now-how was the world lost?"

"That," he said, "is easy to tell, much easier than you may suppose. The world was lost one day in 1935, here in Germany. It was I who lost it, and I will tell you how.

"I was employed in a defense plant (a war plant, of course, but they were always called defense plants). That was the year of the National Defense Law, the law of 'total conscription. Under the law I was required to take the oath of fidelity. I said I would not, I opposed it in conscience. I was given twenty-four hours to 'think it over.' In those twenty-four hours I lost the world."

"Yes?" I said.

"You see, refusal would have meant the loss of my job, of course, not prison or anything like that. (Later on, the penalty was worse, but this was only 1935.) But losing my job would have meant that I could not get another. Wher-ever I went 1 should be asked why I left the job I had, and, when I said why, I should certainly have been refused employment. Nobody would hire a 'Bolshevik.' Of course I was not a Bolshevik, but you understand what I mean."

"Yes," I said.

"I tried not to think of myself or my family. We night have got out of the country, in any case, and I could have got a job in industry or education somewhere else.

"What I tried to think of was the people to whom I might be of some help later on, if things got worse (as I believed they would). I had a wide friendship in scientific and academic circles, including many Jews, and 'Aryans,' too, who might be in trouble. If I took the oath and held my job, I might be of help, somehow, as things went on.

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, "He is one of those rare birds among Germans- a European." One day, when we had be-come very friendly, I said to him, "Tell me now-how was the world lost?" "That," he said, "is easy to tell, much easier than you may suppose. The world was lost one day in 1935, here in Germany. It was I who lost it, and I will tell you how. "I was employed in a defense plant (a war plant, of course, but they were always called defense plants). That was the year of the National Defense Law, the law of 'total conscription. Under the law I was required to take the oath of fidelity. I said I would not, I opposed it in conscience. I was given twenty-four hours to 'think it over.' In those twenty-four hours I lost the world." "Yes?" I said. "You see, refusal would have meant the loss of my job, of course, not prison or anything like that. (Later on, the penalty was worse, but this was only 1935.) But losing my job would have meant that I could not get another. Wher-ever I went 1 should be asked why I left the job I had, and, when I said why, I should certainly have been refused employment. Nobody would hire a 'Bolshevik.' Of course I was not a Bolshevik, but you understand what I mean." "Yes," I said. "I tried not to think of myself or my family. We night have got out of the country, in any case, and I could have got a job in industry or education somewhere else. "What I tried to think of was the people to whom I might be of some help later on, if things got worse (as I believed they would). I had a wide friendship in scientific and academic circles, including many Jews, and 'Aryans,' too, who might be in trouble. If I took the oath and held my job, I might be of help, somehow, as things went on. 177

Collective Shame

If I refused to take the oath, I would certainly be useless to my friends, even if I remained in the country. I myself would be in their situation.

"The next day, after 'thinking it over, I said I would take the oath with the mental reservation that, by the words with which the oath began, Ich schwöre bei Gott, I swear by God,' I understood that no burian being and no gov ernment had the right to override my conscience. My mental reservations did not interest the official who ministered the oath. He said, Do you take the cath?" and I took it. That day the world was lost, and it was I who lost it."

"Do I understand," I said, "that you think that you should not have taken the cath?"

"Yes."

"But," I said, "you did save many lives later on. You wers of grester use to your friends than you ever dreamed you might be." (My friend's apartment was, until his ar-test and imprisonment in 1943, a hideout for fugitives.j

"For the sake of the argument," he said, "I will agree that I saved many lives later on, Yes."

"Which you could not have done if you had refused to take the path in 1935."

"Yes."

"And you still think that you should not have taken the oath."

"Yes."

"I don't understand," I said.

"Perhaps not," he said, "bat you must not forget that you are an American. I mean that, really. Americans have never known anything like this experience in its entirety. all the way to the end. That is the point."

"You must explain," I said.

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Collective Shame If I refused to take the oath, I would certainly be useless to my friends, even if I remained in the country. I myself would be in their situation. "The next day, after 'thinking it over, I said I would take the oath with the mental reservation that, by the words with which the oath began, Ich schwöre bei Gott, I swear by God,' I understood that no burian being and no gov ernment had the right to override my conscience. My mental reservations did not interest the official who ministered the oath. He said, Do you take the cath?" and I took it. That day the world was lost, and it was I who lost it." "Do I understand," I said, "that you think that you should not have taken the cath?" "Yes." "But," I said, "you did save many lives later on. You wers of grester use to your friends than you ever dreamed you might be." (My friend's apartment was, until his ar-test and imprisonment in 1943, a hideout for fugitives.j "For the sake of the argument," he said, "I will agree that I saved many lives later on, Yes." "Which you could not have done if you had refused to take the path in 1935." "Yes." "And you still think that you should not have taken the oath." "Yes." "I don't understand," I said. "Perhaps not," he said, "bat you must not forget that you are an American. I mean that, really. Americans have never known anything like this experience in its entirety. all the way to the end. That is the point." "You must explain," I said. 178

"Of course I must explain. First of all, there is the prob-lom of the lesser evil. Taking the oath was not so evil as being unable to help my friends later on would have been. But the evil of the oath was certain and immediate, and the helping of my friends was in the future and therefore uncertain. I had to commit a positive evil, there and then, in the hope of a possible good later on. The good out-weighed the evil; but the good was only a hope, the evil a fact."

"But," I said, "the hope was realized. You were able to help your friends."

"Yes," he said, "but you must concede that the hope might not have been realized-either for reasons beyond my control or because I became afraid later on or even because I was afraid all the time and was simply fooling myself when I took the oath in the first place.

"But that is not the important point. The problem of the lesser evil we all know about; in Germany we took Hindenburg as less evil than Hitler, and in theA end we got them both. But that is not why I say that Americans can-not understand. No, the important point is how many innocent people were killed by the Nazis, would you say?"

"Six million Jews alone, we are told,"

"Well, that may be an exaggeration. And it does not in-clude non-Jews, of whom there must have been many hun-dreds of thousands, or even millions. Shall we say, just to be safe, that three million innocent people were killed all together?"

I nodded

"And how many innocent lives would you like to say I saved?"

"You would know better than I," I said.

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"Of course I must explain. First of all, there is the prob-lom of the lesser evil. Taking the oath was not so evil as being unable to help my friends later on would have been. But the evil of the oath was certain and immediate, and the helping of my friends was in the future and therefore uncertain. I had to commit a positive evil, there and then, in the hope of a possible good later on. The good out-weighed the evil; but the good was only a hope, the evil a fact." "But," I said, "the hope was realized. You were able to help your friends." "Yes," he said, "but you must concede that the hope might not have been realized-either for reasons beyond my control or because I became afraid later on or even because I was afraid all the time and was simply fooling myself when I took the oath in the first place. "But that is not the important point. The problem of the lesser evil we all know about; in Germany we took Hindenburg as less evil than Hitler, and in theA end we got them both. But that is not why I say that Americans can-not understand. No, the important point is how many innocent people were killed by the Nazis, would you say?" "Six million Jews alone, we are told," "Well, that may be an exaggeration. And it does not in-clude non-Jews, of whom there must have been many hun-dreds of thousands, or even millions. Shall we say, just to be safe, that three million innocent people were killed all together?" I nodded "And how many innocent lives would you like to say I saved?" "You would know better than I," I said. 179

Collective Shame

"Well," said he, "perhaps five, or ten, one doesn't know. But shall we say a hundred, or a thousand, just to be safe?"

I nodded,

"And it would be better to have saved all three million, instead of only a hundred, or a thousand?"

"Of course."

"There, then, is my point. If I had refused to take the ozth of fidelity, I would have saved all three million."

"You are joking," I said.

"No."

"You don't mean to tell me that your refusal would have overthrown the regime in 1935?"

"No."

"Or that others would have followed your example?"

"No."

"J don't understand."

"You are an American," he said again, smiling. "I will explain, There I was, in 1935, a perfect example of the kind of person who, with all his advantages ia birth, in educa-tiva, and in position, rules (or might casily rule) in any country. If I had refused to take the oath in 1935, it would have meant that thousands and thousands like me, all over Germany, were refusing to take it. Their refusal would have heartened millions. Thus the regime would have been overthrown, or, indeed, would never have come to power in the first place. The fact that I was not prepared to resist, in 1935, meant that all the thousands, hundreds of thon-sands, like me in Germany were also unprepared, and each one of these hundreds of thousands was, like me, a man of great iufinence or of great potential influence. Thus the world was lost."

"You are serious?" I said.

-- "Completely," he said. "These hundred lives I saved-what are they compared to millions?"

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Collective Shame "Well," said he, "perhaps five, or ten, one doesn't know. But shall we say a hundred, or a thousand, just to be safe?" I nodded, "And it would be better to have saved all three million, instead of only a hundred, or a thousand?" "Of course." "There, then, is my point. If I had refused to take the ozth of fidelity, I would have saved all three million." "You are joking," I said. "No." "You don't mean to tell me that your refusal would have overthrown the regime in 1935?" "No." "Or that others would have followed your example?" "No." "J don't understand." "You are an American," he said again, smiling. "I will explain, There I was, in 1935, a perfect example of the kind of person who, with all his advantages ia birth, in educa-tiva, and in position, rules (or might casily rule) in any country. If I had refused to take the oath in 1935, it would have meant that thousands and thousands like me, all over Germany, were refusing to take it. Their refusal would have heartened millions. Thus the regime would have been overthrown, or, indeed, would never have come to power in the first place. The fact that I was not prepared to resist, in 1935, meant that all the thousands, hundreds of thon-sands, like me in Germany were also unprepared, and each one of these hundreds of thousands was, like me, a man of great iufinence or of great potential influence. Thus the world was lost." "You are serious?" I said. -- "Completely," he said. "These hundred lives I saved-what are they compared to millions?" 180

collective shame and guilt will hopefully be a real force soon enough.

thank you for at least not going to the casting call.

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Mayer didn’t just write about 1930s Germany—he wrote about human nature. If we think we’re immune to history’s mistakes, we’re already making them. #TheyThoughtTheyWereFree

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They Thought They Were Free: The Germans,… by Milton Mayer · Audiobook preview
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Uncertainty grows. No one protests. Friends say, “It’s not so bad.” You feel isolated. The fear of acting alone outweighs the fear of what’s happening.

And so, you wait.

But each step prepares you not to be shocked by the next. And so it continues.

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Great insight from a book about those that descended into being Nazi supporters. Please watch and share

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#TheyThoughtTheyWereFree publsihed 1955

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#RoundSparrow === #Self

They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’
"And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it."
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