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Original post on discuss.systems

why should you give a fuck about this niche ass, inaccessible sophistry?

because that is the way to go on about understanding phenomena in #complexsystems. it is by far not the only way to think about it, systems science is wast and diverse. but it is a good start.

and when you want criticize […]

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Original post on discuss.systems

#systemsdynamics proposed that every possible issue can best be understood by envisioning it as an interconnected whole consisting of

- stocks
- flows
- feedbacks
and delays (which i have not touched on yet, bc it is a mess).

the type of system described above is a certain archetype that […]

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Original post on berlin.social

There is a lot of hype about the stranded #humpback whale in the #BalticSea. Of course we all want him to survive. Yet if people would care the same about issues that really matter, then we would have a real chance to avoid collapse. People understand #ClimateChange, but it seems to be abstract […]

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Love the reference to “Libertarians’ Wrongest Argument.” There's lots of competition for that honor. #LimitstoGrowth #DonellaMeadows #RomeStatute

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Rohe: It's time for a real conversation on immigration A 50-year-old call for a national conversation on immigration, initiated by Dr. John H. Tanton, is more urgent than ever.

US #immigration movement launched 50+ years ago by dec John Tanton; traces into an essay titled “International #Migration,” which he wrote for the #LimitstoGrowth Conference & national chair of Zero #Population Growth #ZPG

#TantonNetwork #FarRight #StephenMiller

eu.detroitnews.com/story/opinio...

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This is a consequence of our economies addicted to growth!
One cannot grow unlimited forever.
Therefore a correction is needed and will occur from time to time.
The only variable is what time...
#Limitstogrowth
#circulareconomy

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State of the Species - Orion Magazine Does success spell doom for Homo sapiens?

I re-read this essay by @charlescmann.bsky.social in February and July every year. It holds. Waiting to see if homo sapiens can turn the biological corner away from self extinction. So far, not looking good.

@orionmagazine.bsky.social
#limitstogrowth
#successfullspecies

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we knew in 1972 #limitstogrowth

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my direct question to the #systemsthinking community: if you had to redo world3, include the massive effects of social inequality, include big money & power, global, all encompassing #posttruth #misinformation campaigns corrupting the feedbacks - what would it look like?

#collapse #limitstogrowth

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Original post on discuss.systems

there were exactly 2 people in these circles that saw coming by a long shot what trump meant. one was heinberg, wrote a whole book about it, called "power". the other was regoczei, computing guy, he always said to me: fascism is a result of local #limitstogrowth collapse. not the big thing, but […]

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Why Civilizations Fail with William Ophuls Podcast Episode · Upstream · 01/16/2025 · 36m

Great interview with Dr. William Olphus ecologist and political scientist
podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/u...
#limitstogrowth #overshoot #societalcollapse #history #science #exponentialgrowth
#complexity #predicament

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Original post on discuss.systems

one concept the collaborationist have is that modern fascism is always a result of local #limitstogrowth #collapse. scarcity from #resource depletion, diminishing returns and complexity fuck ups as the system grows against its limits causing social conflict.

now. let's be perfectly honest with […]

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The Thermodynamic Blind Spot: Why “Peak Oil” Failed, and Why We Are Finally at the Singularity If you mention “Peak Oil” today in polite company—or even among serious economists—you are immediately filed away in the same cabinet as Y2K survivalists and Mayan Calendar enthusiasts.

La producción global de crudo, el fácil que sale bajo su propia presión con energía masiva y alta TRE, hizo exactamente lo que los geólogos predijeron: alcanzó su máximo alrededor de 2005. No es una teoría, son datos históricos. El modelo #LimitsToGrowth avisó: el capital se desvió del crecimiento👇👇

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Belief in infinite growth with finite resources is a fantasy.

Money is boundless, but Earth is not. This abstraction ignores real-world limits.

#SustainableGrowth #GreenEconomy #LimitsToGrowth

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Climate action faces key tests in 2026 New EU carbon tax and large clean energy projects are on the horizon

USA getting left behind… again. #climatecrisis #limitstogrowth #ourcommonfuture

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How climate campaigns can cut through ad fatigue Across the UK and Europe, campaign groups are pushing for limits on fossil-fuel ads in public spaces. But even counter-climate ads can trigger fatigue.

Change in minds = change in actions. #actonclimate #limitstogrowth #sustainability

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Original post on mastodon.social

as i said: can we please leave non-equilibrium thermodynamics out of the #climatechange #limitstogrowth #degrowth #renewable #energy discussion.

1. it is hell of a stretch

2. it is just confusing and honestly the people who bring this up don't understand the 3rd law and completely misinterpret […]

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GREENWASHED | Full Documentary [Official]
GREENWASHED | Full Documentary [Official] YouTube video by Dr. Sofia Pineda Ochoa

The film exposes the threat.
We know how to solve our problems and change the world. But the question remains, Will we?

#Greenwashed
#LimitsToGrowth
#Overpopulation
#Sustainability
#FiniteResources
#EnvironmentalDegradation
#Biosphere
#Pollution
#Degrowth

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjWU...

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is there left anyone in the #climatechange movement who

a) acknowledges there are #limitstogrowth

b) acknowledges that a despots oligarchy is inadequate to fight climate change

c) has some basic understanding of the systems- and thermodynamics of living […]

[Original post on mastodon.social]

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WIE OFT DENN NOCH, FRIEDRICH MERZ? GRENZEN DES WACHSTUMS Paschas, Zahnarzttermine, Zirkuszelt, Stadtbild und jetzt auch noch Brasilien. In manche Rollen kann man hineinwachsen. Irgendwann stößt aber auch das Wachstum an seine Grenzen.

“Weißt Du, in manche Rollen kann man hineinwachsen”, sagte mir Mandoki, verwies auf große Konzerte und Bühnen und ergänzte dann: “Aber irgendwann hat es sich ausgewachsen.”

Ironisch, dass ausgerechnet Friedrich #Merz selbst der beste Nachweis für #GrenzenDesWachstums ist."

#LimitsToGrowth
#micdrop

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The Quest for Prosperity | Tim Jackson's Foreword to Richard Douglas' new book The Meaning of Growth This is an amended version of Tim Jackson's Foreword for Richard McNeill Douglas' new book The Meaning of Growth—Anti-Environmentalist Rhetoric an ...

The Quest for Prosperity | @timjackson.org.uk’s Foreword for @maitrereynard.bsky.social’s new book The Meaning of Growth: Anti-Environmentalist Rhetoric and the Defence of Modernity. → cusp.ac.uk/themes/aetw/...

cc #Postgrowth #LimitsToGrowth #Progress #Modernity #ProsperityWithoutGrowth

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What if the simplest games to capture cooperation problems always involve 3 players? In standard teaching of game theory we model the simplest possible games of cooperation as games in which there are only two players. While we do talk about one player games, these types of games are ...

You've probably heard of the prisoner's dilemma.

But what if the simplest possible games of cooperation actually require a minimum of 3 players?

My article
www.turingmeta.org/post/what-if...

Comments welcome

#gametheory #risk #limitstogrowth

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Climate denial and the defence of modernity | Blog by Richard McNeill Douglas What we are lacking is an inspiring vision of our lives, collective futures, and spiritual reality in a world in which we cannot keep growing forever. As mu ...

In his new blog, CUSP researcher @maitrereynard.bsky.social explores the spiritual roots of political climate denial and society’s attachment to growth—and how defending growth has become a defence of modernity itself. → cusp.ac.uk/themes/m/blo...

cc #postgrowth #modernity #limitstogrowth

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The Great Simplification | Film on Energy, Environment, and Our Future | FULL MOVIE
The Great Simplification | Film on Energy, Environment, and Our Future | FULL MOVIE YouTube video by Nate Hagens

The Great Simplification Movie
youtu.be/-xr9rIQxwj4
#energy #metabolism #waste #complexity #extraction #humanpredicament #overshoot #consumption #why #humananimal
#civilization #speciesism #limitstogrowth

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Original post on mastodon.social

but that is basically all that is said about it in the actual #limitstogrowth report.

and that is one of sort of the shortcomings of it, because wealth inequality was much less when it was done & so it did not account for it.

we are talking about having to live with a lot less, fast, soon. and […]

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Original post on mastodon.social

according to the report, the first peak that we will face, and it might actually happen pretty soon, is the peak in industrial output. a combination of resource depletion, environmental pollution & infrastructure depreciation resulting in diminishing returns and untimely decline of investment in […]

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Original post on mastodon.social

please don't get me wrong. i am not denying the findings of #climatscience or the #limitstogrowth reports. yes, things look really dire. but the lack of true understanding of #systemsdynamics, which is not hard to obtain bc at the end of the day it is just basic observation of nature, will lead […]

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Original post on mastodon.social

the next issue i have with all of this #collapse talk is that people cannot differentiate between running a SD model and crystal ball gazing the future. a SD model does not predict the future. it explores system behavior. the scientific question behind #limitstogrowth was not: when will […]

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Original post on mastodon.social

so basically:

- #overshoot & #collapse as a #systemsdynamics concept are final & different from oscillation. it is not a thing you want to look forward to

- although the #systemsdynamics are the same, collapse can happen slow and gradually. it depends on which variable you look at. when you […]

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Original post on mastodon.social

seneca cliff #collapse

when you look at the limits to growth world3 model you can see the graphs tracking the stocks and flows taking different shapes. the time frame of decline is not always the same for all variables.

when the decline happens faster than the growth resulting in an asymmetric […]

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